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This isn’t directed at you, Troy. But wow, (the proverbial) we can’t even enjoy an NBA championship without the stink of partisan, harebrained, social media influenced politics invading it.
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I’m a big fan of Rudy’s space bar use. Also, Communist China is my favorite city in Beijing.
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Jordan won 6 championships. This has always been the default people go to when talking about GOAT. Jordan has championships, Lebron doesn't. Lebron now has 4... if he ties Jordan, does the discussion start to change?
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Shoulda, coulda, woulda...
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I actually think the discussion should change based on how many times he's gone to the finals, with different teams, different players, different scenarios.Jordan won 6 championships. This has always been the default people go to when talking about GOAT. Jordan has championships, Lebron doesn't. Lebron now has 4... if he ties Jordan, does the discussion start to change?
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Like the discussion of how the Lakers stunk until Lebron convinced Anthony Davis to pout and demand a trade to only the lakers?I actually think the discussion should change based on how many times he's gone to the finals, with different teams, different players, different scenarios.Jordan won 6 championships. This has always been the default people go to when talking about GOAT. Jordan has championships, Lebron doesn't. Lebron now has 4... if he ties Jordan, does the discussion start to change?
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Lebron is probably more physical gifted, but lacked Jordan's superhuman drive to win.
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I mean LeBron spent what, 8 years of his career with absolute dog sht in Cleveland? He dragged Sasha Pavlovic and Boobie Gibson to the final and then gets the finals loss held against him. Against Tim Duncan, Manu, Tony Parker.. Dumb
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imo, the necessity of the star players being grouped together is essential in this NBA generation. Can't really fault a guy for recognizing that.Like the discussion of how the Lakers stunk until Lebron convinced Anthony Davis to pout and demand a trade to only the lakers?I actually think the discussion should change based on how many times he's gone to the finals, with different teams, different players, different scenarios.Jordan won 6 championships. This has always been the default people go to when talking about GOAT. Jordan has championships, Lebron doesn't. Lebron now has 4... if he ties Jordan, does the discussion start to change?
How they went about it, is less than desired.
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I hope that doesn't some off as a knock on Lebron, just that Jordan was like a psycho.
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How many championships would Jordan have if he negotiated trades for guys like Anthony Davis when times are toughLeBron might have had 8 if he had Rodman and Pippen. It is what it is, they're the 2 best ever. Comparing by # of championships is silly and lazy
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Or go play baseball for three years in his prime?
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Nah, Jordan would've just went to the Pistons after they kicked his ass. That's how current NBA works.How many championships would Jordan have if he negotiated trades for guys like Anthony Davis when times are toughLeBron might have had 8 if he had Rodman and Pippen. It is what it is, they're the 2 best ever. Comparing by # of championships is silly and lazy
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did times ever get tough with the rosters he had?How many championships would Jordan have if he negotiated trades for guys like Anthony Davis when times are toughLeBron might have had 8 if he had Rodman and Pippen. It is what it is, they're the 2 best ever. Comparing by # of championships is silly and lazy
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Turn to page 51-52 in this very thread for the same debate.
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I think we can agree at this point that it certainly is not clear cut like it once was, yes?
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posted this in 2015: viewtopic.php?p=50337#p50337My gut feeling top 10 would be:
1. Jordan
2. Lebron
3. Bird
4. Russell
5. Magic
6. Wilt
7. Kareem
8. Hakeem
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Shaq
I have Kobe in 11-20
Also everyone but Lebron and Jordan are +/- 2 positions. They're all really close. I do think Lebron and Jordan are declaritively 1 and 2 though
I'd probably stick with it. Lebron vs. Jordan is tough but my gut still says Jordan. At this point it's just a counting exercise. If Lebron gets to 6 I would consider him greater but until then 6 > 4
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