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Postby count2infinity » Tue May 14, 2024 10:13 am

:lol:

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue May 14, 2024 10:16 am

Lol. Yeah, if a bunch of trad caths are saying it, it must be cool. And 1/3 of the country? GTFO

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Postby nocera » Tue May 14, 2024 10:17 am

Well, 74m still voted for Trump in 2020 so the morons are definitely out there.

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Postby dodint » Tue May 14, 2024 10:20 am

"Half of Catholics attending Mass 28 years ago no longer do, figures show"

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(Not unique to Philadelphia, just a handy illustration of how Catholic ideology is quickly falling out of favor in modern times.)

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Postby NTP66 » Tue May 14, 2024 10:23 am

Mass exodus



I'll see myself out

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Postby mikey » Tue May 14, 2024 10:25 am

Hmph, even the pope coming out didn't really provide a bump...that's a tough break...

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue May 14, 2024 10:26 am

Well, 74m still voted for Trump in 2020 so the morons are definitely out there.
I'd love to get a solid number of the people that adhere to idiotic trad cath beliefs. 100mm is an insane number to throw out there.

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Postby CBear3 » Tue May 14, 2024 10:28 am

They picked a speaker who told their graduates exactly what they wanted them to hear, good for them both.

I can individually hold the opinion that he espouses beliefs that belong in the dark ages, and is a major hypocrite for banging the drum of masculinity while touting his masculine by association profession and spending the GDP of a small nation on his beard care.

But he can sure kick the hell out of a football.

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Postby dodint » Tue May 14, 2024 10:29 am

Well, the Census estimates there are ~52million Catholics in the US.

So just double that and assume they're all hardcore traditionalists, obviously.

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Postby mikey » Tue May 14, 2024 10:30 am

Do they interview all the Latinos coming over the border too...? :pop:

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue May 14, 2024 10:33 am

Omg lol, guess the player.


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Postby dodint » Tue May 14, 2024 10:33 am

Do they interview all the Latinos coming over the border too...? :pop:
Those fabulous gay latinx? Absolutely not.

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Postby nocera » Tue May 14, 2024 10:35 am

Makes sense. People accused of sexual assault should stick together.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue May 14, 2024 10:55 am

I wouldn't be surprised if half of Catholics attending mass 28 years ago no longer do so because they are dead.

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Postby dodint » Tue May 14, 2024 10:56 am

I wouldn't be surprised if half of Catholics attending mass 28 years ago no longer do so because they are dead.
Yup. Looking at that particular chart it's a steady decline. The abuse scandals (and pope) didn't seem to have any real impact. It's just a steady march to the grave. Congregants leaving behind grateful heirs that no longer have to pretend they like going to mourn their religion for an hour each week.

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Postby Shyster » Tue May 14, 2024 11:10 am

Lol. Yeah, if a bunch of trad caths are saying it, it must be cool. And 1/3 of the country? GTFO

Around 30-40% of the country is devoutly religious, regularly attends church, opposes same-sex marriage (yes still), and otherwise likely holds views that would be compatible with what Butker said. If not a third of the country, we're still talking about tens of millions of Americans.


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Postby willeyeam » Tue May 14, 2024 11:14 am

Lol. Yeah, if a bunch of trad caths are saying it, it must be cool. And 1/3 of the country? GTFO

Around 30-40% of the country is devoutly religious, regularly attends church,
source?

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Postby nocera » Tue May 14, 2024 11:19 am

Let's assume that's correct and 30% of the country are idiots holding onto outdated beliefs. Does that mean the other 70% shouldn't mock them when they say stupid ****?

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Postby Shyster » Tue May 14, 2024 11:27 am

source?

The Pew Research Center's regular series of American Trends polls. See, e.g.:

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... and-state/

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... ffiliated/

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Tue May 14, 2024 11:28 am

tbh Catholicism isn’t the right “measure” because Protestants vastly outnumber Catholics (a quick google reveals that it’s about a 2:1 ratio) and often times Protestants (depending on the sect) can have a lot more traditional views

an interesting thing I’ve also read is that American Catholics are a bit more “old fashioned” than European Catholics which I can see. Like there’s more of an alignment with American evangelism than there is with the actual Roman Catholic Church. I feel like you’ll see this with the crazies who think Francis is the antichrist because he is empathetic towards LGBT people

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Postby Shyster » Tue May 14, 2024 11:31 am

Let's assume that's correct and 30% of the country are idiots holding onto outdated beliefs. Does that mean the other 70% shouldn't mock them when they say stupid ****?
Nope. But I should think it means that you shouldn't be butthurt when they say stuff that you disagree with, because just as you are entitled to think they are idiots with stupid beliefs, they are entitled to think that you are an idiot with stupid beliefs.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue May 14, 2024 11:31 am

source?

The Pew Research Center's regular series of American Trends polls. See, e.g.:

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... and-state/

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... ffiliated/
I guess it depends how you define "regularly" - this 2021 poll shows 31% attended monthly and 25% weekly. I can't imagine that number has increased since 2021.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue May 14, 2024 11:32 am

Let's assume that's correct and 30% of the country are idiots holding onto outdated beliefs. Does that mean the other 70% shouldn't mock them when they say stupid ****?
Nope. But I should think it means that you shouldn't be butthurt when they say stuff that you disagree with, because just as you are entitled to think they are idiots with stupid beliefs, they are entitled to think that you are an idiot with stupid beliefs.

I’m only seeing one butthurt poster here

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Postby Kaiser » Tue May 14, 2024 11:34 am

how bout them cowboys

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Postby nocera » Tue May 14, 2024 11:36 am

I'm all for them being able to say whatever they want. I'm also all for them facing whatever consequences they might face due to their bigoted idiotic beliefs. In this case, I doubt anything comes from it other than the majority thinking he's an idiot.

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