Goligoski's Rights traded to Arizona for a 5th round Pick

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Goligoski's Rights traded to Arizona for a 5th round Pick

Postby Morkle » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:38 pm

Good luck in getting a player to sign there Yotes.

http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the- ... goligoski/

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Goligoski's Rights traded to Arizona for a 5th round Pick

Postby columbia » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:01 pm

Finally, we know the value of a fifth round pick.

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Postby Factorial » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:07 pm

This thread is of equal value.

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Goligoski's Rights traded to Arizona for a 5th round Pick

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:16 pm

does that mean we traded Hornqvist for a fifth rounder?

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Postby Jim » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:19 pm

does that mean we traded Hornqvist for a fifth rounder?
We traded a 5th rounder for Hornqvist and a portion of Kessel.

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Postby mikey » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:16 am

He signs for 5 years, $5.475M per...all told, that's a pretty good snag by the Yotes who needed another d-man badly...

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:26 am

I'm surprised he signed with them, to be honest. I'm sure there were plenty of other teams who would have courted him.

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Postby Jim » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:34 am

More money then he expected.

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Postby Craig » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:43 am

I cant believe he didnt test the market. Good deal for phoenix.

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Postby MR25 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:56 pm

More money then he expected.
Not really. His advanced stats are fairly close to those of Kris Letang in terms of production per 60 minutes and shot generation/suppression. Obviously, Letang is a little better in the shots generated and Corsi differential, but Goligoski isn't that far behind him.

Obviously, not saying Goligoski = Kris Letang, but he's played a pretty solid OFD game for Dallas, and the stats back that up. He's a good pickup for Arizona, who definitely need someone else to move the puck whose name isn't Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

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Postby mikey » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:59 pm

So...Kris Letang is an elite d-man in this league, at least a #1 at worst...am I to believe that Goose is too...?

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Postby dodint » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:03 pm

Yeah, that graphic isn't helping things. :lol:

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Postby columbia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:03 pm

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Postby MR25 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:10 pm

Source of the post Obviously, not saying Goligoski = Kris Letang, but he's played a pretty solid OFD game for Dallas
Don't know how that couldn't be more clear.

I'm not saying he's elite, but it appears he's underrated by some.

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Postby mikey » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:18 pm

Source of the post elite d-man in this league, at least a #1 at worst...am I to believe that Goose is too...?
My question was not in relation to Letang. Letang is X. I know this. Let's pretend I don't know who Goligoski is. What is Goligoski? What am I to believe? Because they look pretty damn similar on that pamphlet...so you were clear, I asked a clarifying question that I believe to be clear as well.

Again, Kris Letang is an elite defenseman in the league. At worst he is a #1. What is Alex Goligoski?

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Postby columbia » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:20 pm

mikey's point being that stats can very easily = damn (in this case, dman) lies

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Postby Craig » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:22 pm

Hes a top pairing guy and a pp qb on many teams. Hes at worst a 3.

Hes no letang, but he will be filling the same role in az that letang would if he went there.

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Postby slappybrown » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:25 pm

Source of the post elite d-man in this league, at least a #1 at worst...am I to believe that Goose is too...?
My question was not in relation to Letang. Letang is X. I know this. Let's pretend I don't know who Goligoski is. What is Goligoski? What am I to believe? Because they look pretty damn similar on that pamphlet...so you were clear, I asked a clarifying question that I believe to be clear as well.

Again, Kris Letang is an elite defenseman in the league. At worst he is a #1. What is Alex Goligoski?
Without anything but the above chart, a player that is likely the 2nd or 3rd best defensemen on most teams. Which does not strike me as particularly controversial.

The next step would be to use even more data and information to learn about how he was deployed, who his most common pairing was, etc. to get an even fuller picture of how to evaluate the player without the benefit of watching him play.

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Postby mikey » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Dick Tarnstrom and Ric Jackman filled Letang's role here at one point too...they were 6/7 guys. The assigning of the number, as it were, comes from proper talent evaluation. I'm sure Tarnstrom and Jackman got off a lot of shots too...

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Postby Craig » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:35 pm

Well if that was a response to me, im saying that either letang or gogo would be a 3 or an out of place 2 in az. Id certainly rather have letang than gogo, but its not as if either of them are as good as oel...in any way really.

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Postby slappybrown » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:38 pm

Dick Tarnstrom and Ric Jackman filled Letang's role here at one point too...they were 6/7 guys. The assigning of the number, as it were, comes from proper talent evaluation. I'm sure Tarnstrom and Jackman got off a lot of shots too...
This is a good example of really poor analysis. :pop:

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Goligoski's Rights traded to Arizona for a 5th round Pick

Postby Jim » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:17 pm

More money then he expected.
Not really.
I expect that if he thought that there was a chance of getting more he would have gone to 7/1.

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