Week 3, Steelers @ Rams (9/27 @ 1 PM EDT)

Postby **shafnutz05** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:41 pm

Yea, kind of agree. Penalty per the rules, yes. I wouldn't call it dirty personally.

Agreed as well.

Postby **Rocco** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:42 pm

I don't think it should have been a penalty, but that's called if it's Brady, Peyton or Brees. Ultimately it doesn't really matter- they'll fine Barron but the refs missed it, the Steelers had to punt, and they're missing their QB for the immediate future.

Postby **LeopardLetang** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:49 am

Was it dirtier than von oelhoffen?

I don't see it as dirty at all just trying to remember how it compares.

Postby **shmenguin** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:55 am

The intent of the rule wasn't to address dirty hits. Just unfortunate ones.

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:24 am

I thought it was very similar to the Kimo/Palmer hit in the playoffs years ago. Both unintentional, yet unfortunate.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:28 am

I'm not sure how that wasn't a penalty with the new rule. He tackled the QB's shin, He was stumbling, but I didn't think you had to come in perfectly clean for that rule to be cited.

Doesn't matter though, damage done, Broeth shouldn't be taking hits like that. No reason to be dancing around the pocket.

Postby **slappybrown** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:42 am

Wait, are you blaming Ben here Troy? What the

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:45 am

Wait, are you blaming Ben here Troy? What the

Well, either Broeth or Haley. Somehow during that game they went from quick strike, efficient offense to Arians-esque (forcing the ball downfield)

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:58 am

What the heck was ben supposed to do there?? How dare he stand in the pocket

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:09 am

They had consecutive possessions ended because of sacks. Either bad play call or Broeth holding on to the ball. I don't know, but either way, can't act like it was some act of god that just wrecked Roethlisberger's knee.

Postby **slappybrown** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:27 am

This is quite the hot take.

He got hurt playing a dangerous sport. The end.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:29 am

This is quite the hot take.

He got hurt playing a dangerous sport. The end.

I suppose, I think the offense was pressing and the injury was a product of that. Not sure why that's such a radical take.

Postby **grunthy** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:41 am

This is quite the hot take.

He got hurt playing a dangerous sport. The end.
I suppose, I think the offense was pressing and the injury was a product of that. Not sure why that's such a radical take.

Seriously? It was like 3 seconds from snap to injury.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:58 am

Yes seriously, He was sacked on the previously play and also on the drive prior to that. If he's going to be taking that many hits, he's more likely to get hurt. It's a combination of play calling, the O-line and Broeth. I don't know why he shouldn't be held somewhat accountable.

Postby **shmenguin** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:58 am

if ben isn't going to try to extend plays, there's no point in fielding a team with the intent of winning.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:02 am

if ben isn't going to try to extend plays, there's no point in fielding a team with the intent of winning.

Isn't that the whole allure of Roethlisberger? He's the "power forward" quarterback...they are so rare to come by and that's part of the reason why this type of player is (rightfully) rated above what his raw numbers might suggest...

Postby **shmenguin** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:04 am

if ben isn't going to try to extend plays, there's no point in fielding a team with the intent of winning.
Isn't that the whole allure of Roethlisberger? He's the "power forward" quarterback...they are so rare to come by and that's part of the reason why this type of player is (rightfully) rated above what his raw numbers might suggest...

yes, it is. when a play breaks down and he shuts his little brain off, he's a god damn wonder. and getting to that point requires some time to dance around the pocket.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:06 am

if ben isn't going to try to extend plays, there's no point in fielding a team with the intent of winning.

The only time the offense was having success yesterday was when he was taking what the defense game him and getting rid of the ball.

I think the injury is a result of them pressing the ball downfield. That resulted in four of the five sacks the Rams got and the terrible interception.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:18 am

if ben isn't going to try to extend plays, there's no point in fielding a team with the intent of winning.
Isn't that the whole allure of Roethlisberger? He's the "power forward" quarterback...they are so rare to come by and that's part of the reason why this type of player is (rightfully) rated above what his raw numbers might suggest...

in a vacuum yes, but Roeth has a history of injuries now. I just looked and he only has three 16 game seasons...Eli Manning and Philip Rivers (drafted in the same round in 2004) haven't missed a game since they became the starters of their teams.

I think because of this, I sort of agree with Troy. It is a freak injury though

Postby **skullman80** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:19 am

Ben has had the inclination to hold on to the ball a bit too long in the past, but the play he got hurt on yesterday was not one of those plays. Sometimes crap just happens.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:25 am

Roethlisberger is Cam Neely. 82-game seasons are for people not trying hard enough...

Plus, he's never played less than 12...and routinely starts 13 or 15, if not 16 games a year...for a player that plays like he does, with the o-lines that he has had...that's a testament to how strong he is...

I forget, did he miss time because he forgot to lurnt how 2 rode motorbike...?

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:28 am

Ben has had the inclination to hold on to the ball a bit too long in the past, but the play he got hurt on yesterday was not one of those plays. Sometimes crap just happens.

I don't disagree with that.

I'm talking more about the offense as a whole (and Broeth is a large part of it). First 2 drives were 25 plays, 160 yards and 9 points.

Then the next three drives had a terrible interception thrown deep to wheaton, the drive to close out the half was killed because of a sack and a holding call. Then he was sacked twice on the first drive of the second half, one of those being the injury. The offense was terribly out of sync when the injury occurred.

Postby **PFiDC** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:36 am

Roethlisberger is Cam Neely. 82-game seasons are for people not trying hard enough...

Plus, he's never played less than 12...and routinely starts 13 or 15, if not 16 games a year...for a player that plays like he does, with the o-lines that he has had...that's a testament to how strong he is...

I forget, did he miss time because he forgot to lurnt how 2 rode motorbike...?

I don't think so but an appendicitis did IIRC

Postby **grunthy** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:59 am

@troy, that's called the ebb and flow of a game.

Postby **Viva la Ben** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:15 am

Yinzers are ok, but the self-loathing yinzers are the worst.