NFL

[shafnutz05]

Speaking of longevity...TIL that John Riggins' two best NFL seasons occurred when he was 34 and 35 years old.

[Dickie Dunn]

Eddie George sucked more than Shaun Alexander

[meow]

Eddie George was 6’3” but ran at 6’5”

[Viva la Ben]

All this talk about rating running backs reminds me of
Steelers first round bust Tim Worley. He was 6’2” and ran like he was 5’2”.

[Morkle]

Eddie George was way under 4 YPC and he got hurt often. And Ricky Williams was a clownboat

I stopped at Corey Dillon in that list, but "prime" Ricky Williams was suspended.

[joopen]

All these lists excluding Bo Jackson makes them all invalid.

[Morkle]

There was never a full list built, but going by Schmenguin's ideals yesterday, he'd probably have to be at the top.

[shmenguin]

eddie george fell off the cliff after his 400 carry year. he ran hard. it's not surprising his expiration date cam quickly.

[joopen]

There was never a full list built, but going by Schmenguin's ideals yesterday, he'd probably have to be at the top.

For 1 game or 1 season, Bo Jackson would 100% be on my list. He may be in the top 5 of my selections. Not kidding at all

[shmenguin]

All these lists excluding Bo Jackson makes them all invalid.

holy moly good point. not an intentional omission.

[mikey]

Not a direct response to anything recently said, but careful with really short careers - sustainability is still an issue and not always evident in a skill set. Becomes problematic in hockey - cases like Bryan Fogarty, etc.

[Morkle]

It's easy to forget Bo because he produced next to nothing statistically.

515 Rushes, 2782 yards in 4 years.

*next to nothing statistically means short career, injuries, etc.

[shmenguin]

Not a direct response to anything recently said, but careful with really short careers - sustainability is still an issue and not always evident in a skill set. Becomes problematic in hockey - cases like Bryan Fogarty, etc.

perfect theory for jamal charles, for instance.

Bo gets special treatment. partially because funny name. partially because funny commercials. partially because tecmo bowl.

[joopen]

Not a direct response to anything recently said, but careful with really short careers - sustainability is still an issue and not always evident in a skill set. Becomes problematic in hockey - cases like Bryan Fogarty, etc.

Agreed but if we are talking for 1 game or 1 season there is absolutely no doubting Bo Jackson's ability. He was so freakish that he broke his own body.

[columbia]

Bo Jackson: yoi, what could have been

[joopen]

Not a direct response to anything recently said, but careful with really short careers - sustainability is still an issue and not always evident in a skill set. Becomes problematic in hockey - cases like Bryan Fogarty, etc.

perfect theory for jamal charles, for instance.

Bo gets special treatment. partially because funny name. partially because funny commercials. partially because tecmo bowl.

But mostly because of wholly undeniable athletic ability

[meow]

Bo Jackson: yoi, what could have been

Another thing Cincinnati ruined for the rest of the world.

[grunthy]

Still waiting on that 100 RB list.

[shmenguin]

Still waiting on that 100 RB list.

we're at 51 now. i don't have any conference calls to kill time on today. you can keep waiting.

[grunthy]

Still waiting on that 100 RB list.

we're at 51 now. i don't have any conference calls to kill time on today. you can keep waiting.

Figured you couldn’t find 100 RBs.

[slappybrown]

Still waiting on that 100 RB list.

we're at 51 now. i don't have any conference calls to kill time on today. you can keep waiting.

No, you're not. Tifosi may want to gift that to you -- the notion that all HOF RBs are superior to Martin -- but I have higher standards and you certainly have the burden of proof that a guy who had Martin's career is less talented/good than 100 RBs in league history and is basically just a guy who got lucky and happened to be in the right place at the right time, and you could plug in Earnest Jackson and get the same results. Go ahead and make your case for Larry Csonka or Floyd Little over Curtis Martin. And I am not even going to use their raw totals against them, compare how those two performed relative to their peers and how Martin did.

Please, I beg of you, come up with a new take. I need it injected right into my veins, this one isn't having the same effect.

[Morkle]

lol

[shmenguin]

Still waiting on that 100 RB list.

we're at 51 now. i don't have any conference calls to kill time on today. you can keep waiting.

No, you're not. Tifosi may want to gift that to you -- the notion that all HOF RBs are superior to Martin -- but I have higher standards and you certainly have the burden of proof that a guy who had Martin's career is less talented/good than 100 RBs in league history and is basically just a guy who got lucky and happened to be in the right place at the right time, and you could plug in Earnest Jackson and get the same results. Go ahead and make your case for Larry Csonka or Floyd Little over Curtis Martin. And I am not even going to use their raw totals against them, compare how those two performed relative to their peers and how Martin did.

Please, I beg of you, come up with a new take. I need it injected right into my veins, this one isn't having the same effect.

i have a visceral relationship with C Mart. i think it's because he freaking killed us in that playoff game from 95 or 96 or whatever. "THIS guy is running all over us?!!?", mini-shmenguin may have been heard to exclaim. or maybe he just had one big run. don't remember. but the origin story isn't important.

anyways...i would need to contrive another hot take, which isn't fun. i have some thoughts about emmit smith, but he didn't go to pitt, so you guys aren't going to lose your grip on reality over it.

[slappybrown]

I mean the Pitt thing is a joke, if it were that level of homerism, I would be selling Curtis Martin is the fourth greatest back ever, look at the rushing totals!

I would love to hear an anti-Emmitt Smith take.

[Morkle]

I'm probably more inclined to agree with you about Emmit Smith purely because he had quality QB play. That team killed you whichever way you weren't set-up for.

The Jets had Martin, and Chad Freakin Pennington.