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Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:25 pm
by LeopardLetang
I think they're planning a lot of piggy backing. Cherington said at least 5 starters to start the year. So Priester Falter can be 1 starter and and still fit Jones. Contreras finally looked like something in his 1 inning outing striking out the side so I doubt he's penciled in even as a bulk reliever. Fleming seems to be rostered

I haven't sorted this out with mlodz and Holderman iffy

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:28 pm
by willeyeam

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:59 pm
by Troy Loney
Yikes on the walks

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:33 pm
by MrKennethTKangaroo
His stuff has too movement for his own good. This will be a glasnow situation

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:15 pm
by Troy Loney
His stuff has too movement for his own good. This will be a glasnow situation
Maybe more early charlie morton era.

With glasnow, they just deliberately made him avoid pitching to his strengths

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:39 am
by MrKennethTKangaroo
Morton would be a very good comp and definitely a better comp than glasnow. Morton had outrageous movement and so does jones

Anyways I liked this quote in the Trib from jones about Henry Davis:
He’s gotten a lot better,” Jones said. “I always liked having him behind the plate catching me because we have the mindset: It’s **** you.’ That’s the type of guy I like catching me. He wants to work for guys. Honestly, I think his catching game has improved over the offseason.”
If that doesn’t get you irrationally excited I don’t know what to say

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:44 am
by willeyeam
**** yeah

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:02 am
by robbiestoupe
Davis does come off with a bit of a Jason Kendall vibe. Scrappy old school baseball player

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:16 pm
by LeopardLetang
Anyone watch that game yesterday? It was incredibly encouraging. The Fort was in the booth talking about Davis' new stance when catching which uses his athleticism and keeps him closer to the ground as the pitch comes in. He looks awesome back there. And then they talked about how Jones feels about him and appreciates him riling him up. Right after that commentary Jones walked a guy on 4 pitches and Davis ran out and pow-wowed with him. Jones dispatched the next batter easily.

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:23 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Heard an interview yesterday (I think with Perrotto) where he said Davis worked incredibly hard in the offseason and at the very least is now an average defensive catcher. Thinks he can be trusted at the position.

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:32 pm
by LeopardLetang
Crazy to watch Cruz at short. He looks like he's in slow motion like a giraffe and then snaps like a crocodile. Jack Wilson says he's got really small feet for a tall guy and that's why he can play short.

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:41 am
by DigitalGypsy66


Looks like Jared Jones and Henry Davis made the roster.

Do we need a season thread now?

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:51 am
by Troy Loney
Davis wasn’t a question.

Injuries has now made the bullpen terrible. This is going to be a brutal April and may

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:59 am
by willeyeam
Davis wasn’t a question.

Injuries has now made the bullpen terrible. This is going to be a brutal April and may
Lol the bullpen wasngonna be awesome too. Hopefully Holderman isn't out too long. Sounds like Mlodzinski might be a long term thing

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:00 am
by willeyeam
If German and Skenes can make their way up soon, the rotation could at least be average I think

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:11 am
by MrKennethTKangaroo
Should I know who Fleming is?

who starts on the il? Holderman mlodzinski grandal? Anyone else?

Dodint's Thread of Pirates 23-24 Offseason Optimism

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:58 am
by LeopardLetang
i don't know what they see in Fleming. soft contact i guess. They kept running him out there like he was going to make the team though.

I like Stratton making it. Ryan is in about the same spot as Stratton. Older guy that has progressed in AAA and may be ready to be ok. Surprised they went with him instead of Honeywell who has a lot more experience

Borucki can make a pretty good 7th inning guy though so the bullpen isn't terrible at the back end. But bad starters and bad bulk inning relievers may lead to a reverse of that 20-8 start last year