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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:12 am

My post was more driven by the state of the other Pittsburgh franchises, but I am genuinely optimistic on the Pirates because of Endy. I am very bullish on the prospect of this team having an actual franchise Catcher, it doesn't even matter if Davis flops now. His ceiling basically just collapsed because there's no way he can retake the position defensively from Endy. So now it's just a matter of whether the bat from the right side improves to where it makes up for playing bad OF defense or DH. It's not like he didn't show flashes with the power, there definitely a likelihood that he is an impactful guy.

Pens are just unfortunately too old. I think if Crosby, Letang, and Malkin were on other teams playing complimentary roles, they'd be amazing, but it's past the point where they are the engines.

Steelers are a wildcard. Pickett has not taken a step forward this year. They can be a good bad team with him at the helm, but I feel like it's just guaranteed 9-8 seasons until Watt is done with this group.

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Postby faftorial » Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am

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Postby MR25 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:03 am

FanDuel predicts the Pirates to win in 2026

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Postby count2infinity » Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:06 am

It has predictions of the next 5 champions from the 4 major sports.

NBA: Lakers, Celtics, Nuggets, Spurs, Pistons (lol)
NHL: Hurricanes, Devils, Devils, Kings, Sabres (lol)
MLB: Texas (happened), Atlanta, Mets (lol), Pirates (lol), Yankees
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Postby Morkle » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:45 am

Pirates gonna be stingy again in FA this year, maybe marginally improve their team and then piss and moan when people don't support whatever pissant **** they do.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:47 am

I've heard a couple of hot takes that Joe Musgrave might end up back on the Pirates because of the Padres financial issues. I'd be down with that.

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Postby King Colby » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:48 am

Spend $40M split between a first baseman and 2 starting pitchers and they make the playoffs IMO

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:54 am

Hmm
Per Mackey:
Pirates have placed Yerry De Los Santos on waivers. Has appeared in 48 games the last two seasons, pitching to a 4.14 ERA.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:54 am

I've heard a couple of hot takes that Joe Musgrave might end up back on the Pirates because of the Padres financial issues. I'd be down with that.
I posted on Reddit 32 days ago that they should call on musgrove

I started that rumor

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:59 am

Hmm
Per Mackey:
Pirates have placed Yerry De Los Santos on waivers. Has appeared in 48 games the last two seasons, pitching to a 4.14 ERA.
Management seemed to love that guy for about 3 weeks and then he disappeared. Happens a lot w this bullpen

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Postby LeopardLetang » Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:10 pm

He was promising 2 years ago but this year was smoke and mirrors

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:49 pm

Looking at the projected payrolls (with arb), there are going to be a bunch of spenders this offseason

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ns/payroll

Luckily I think try dodgers spend like 45 on ohtani and that pushes them to that 200mm that is sort of a soft cap


Cardinals, nationals, giants, d-backs, tigers, orioles, and reds will all be adding payroll.

Pirates are probably going to try and jump on some barely mid type guy and then bail

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Postby King Colby » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:35 am

Perdomo and andujar also waived.

I can't comprehend the issue they have with Andujar. He was mashing in September yet I just read he ranked 10th on the team in plate appearances during that time.

Hes set to make $2.2M so I guess that explains it but sheesh, the guy has upside

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Postby LeopardLetang » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:45 am

And how don't they see something with Perdomo? I didn't think they needed to worry much about roster spots this year with rule 5.

Edit: I forgot he was injured to end the year. Must be the main reason.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:58 am

$2.2M is less than half of the average MLB salary, so being worried about a dude making comparative peanuts is the clown show behavior I expect from this franchise.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:52 am

And how don't they see something with Perdomo? I didn't think they needed to worry much about roster spots this year with rule 5.

Edit: I forgot he was injured to end the year. Must be the main reason.
I don’t know. I turn on these playoff games and see left handed dudes throwing gas. Perdomo is left handed and throws gas. He’s also huge. Why not keep him around

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:50 pm

Clearing room and salary for Ohtani is the only correct response explaining these moves.
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Postby faftorial » Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:18 pm

I heard he'll take a team friendly salary to play in Pgh.

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Postby King Colby » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:38 pm

I dont get it.

Bido
Garcia
Hatch
Andre Jackson
Kranick
Selby
Stratton

Do we really need any of these guys on the 40 man? I take perdomo over every one of em.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:41 pm

Internet rumors are that Perdomo has an elbow injury and might need TJ.

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Postby Troy Loney » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:50 pm

Internet rumors are that Perdomo has an elbow injury and might need TJ.
Apparently had tj last month

Also, Garcia is gone

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:29 pm

So we're complaining about cutting a guy that's out all year?

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Postby faftorial » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:33 pm

So we're complaining about cutting a guy that's out all year?
I'm burning all of my Pirates paraphernalia as we speak.

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Postby King Colby » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:49 pm

We didn't know

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:45 pm

I lacked knowledge of perdomo’s surgery

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