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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:55 am

well, if the you are the buccos, you might as well take a flyer on a guy like bubba

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:33 pm

Post draft prospect re-rankings. Keith Law only did Top 50 league wide and has Henry Davis at 15 and Quinn Priester at 48. On the other hand, Fangraphs went with a full recalibration.

Overall farm system comes in at 3rd behind Tampa and Baltimore. Franco still hasn't graduated from the Rays, Rutschman got bumped to a 70 FV for Baltimore, and Hayes graduated for the Pirates, so maintaining 3rd is a pretty good spot. Top 10 with league ranking in parenthesis: Davis (35). Priester (37), Contreras (59), Peguero (77), Yajure (81), Cruz (82), Thomas (102), Gonzales (111), Swaggerty (118), Chandler (NR).

All hit with the "Average Everyday Player" FV of 50 until Chandler at 45. Lots of potential for quality players. Hopefully one breaks more toward the "Star" side of the equation. Solometo slots in at 16 in the org rankings while Lonnie would sit at 20.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:50 pm

dunn do you have any thoughts on Keith Law's #5 prospect ranking for Shane Baz

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:53 pm

List I saw went from 4 to 6.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:55 pm

I am guessing that some outlets are seeing him as a reliever (fangraphs), but his numbers this year are insane.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:25 pm

Post draft prospect re-rankings. Keith Law only did Top 50 league wide and has Henry Davis at 15 and Quinn Priester at 48. On the other hand, Fangraphs went with a full recalibration.

Overall farm system comes in at 3rd behind Tampa and Baltimore. Franco still hasn't graduated from the Rays, Rutschman got bumped to a 70 FV for Baltimore, and Hayes graduated for the Pirates, so maintaining 3rd is a pretty good spot. Top 10 with league ranking in parenthesis: Davis (35). Priester (37), Contreras (59), Peguero (77), Yajure (81), Cruz (82), Thomas (102), Gonzales (111), Swaggerty (118), Chandler (NR).

All hit with the "Average Everyday Player" FV of 50 until Chandler at 45. Lots of potential for quality players. Hopefully one breaks more toward the "Star" side of the equation. Solometo slots in at 16 in the org rankings while Lonnie would sit at 20.
Some of those are legacy rankings (imo). Peguero's peripherals are not inspiring in A+ this year, Swaggerty is going to have to make it through some pretty intense rehabbing, Thomas looks terrible and Cruz is looking injury prone. I think Gonzalez is struggling now due to injury, so at least out of the top minors guys that aren't performing, I am least concerned about long term.

That said, even it's just a 40-50% hit rate from the top 10 that's fine. Priester looks on track to contribute by 2023, I think we'll get an idea on Davis next year, and Yajure will probably be a rotation guy next year.

Everything Bradenton and below is too early to tell, plenty of guys that will progress through the system, but there are no ~breakouts in the lower levels, but also no flameouts, the guys getting demoted are showing up when getting at bats at their new level. I guess, i would just note that i am not able to glean anything from the perusing the lower level box scores and stat lines. Just a bunch of recognizable names producing ok mediocre lines.

I think AA Altoona lineup is the only intriguing part of the system right now. Casto, Martin and Mitchell are all fly-ball machines this year, but with low LD rates. So they're blasting dingers and putting up good lines, but the numbers could be inflated a bit by HRs. Or, these are guys that are under radar, established reps within the scouting rounds, so never going to be top prospects, but could still make the majors and produce regardless. Walker and Reynolds are decent examples of this in recent Pirate history. It's easy for prospect outlets to just roll-over lists year to year and ignore guys, but then said guy performs in the majors. And at that point, it doesn't matter that they weren't perennial top prospects.

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Postby faftorial » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:43 pm

I'm in the 5h and Polanco just bashed a home run. Greg Brown says he's a changed player since returning from injury. Bob Walk then gives his eulogy.

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:06 am

Mason Martin is the goat

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:43 am

2017, Pittsburgh Pirates, Round: 17

Late gem

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:13 am

I'm in the 5h and Polanco just bashed a home run. Greg Brown says he's a changed player since returning from injury. Bob Walk then gives his eulogy.
I watched a few innings last night of the Giants feed. Enjoyed their crew. For a first place team, they were very balanced and not the least bit theatrical like Brownie and crew. I’m going to do that more often tbh

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:47 pm

Give us CJ Abrams or we riot


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Postby King Colby » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:07 pm

What's a tucupita

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Postby faftorial » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:13 pm

Another middle infielder?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:31 pm



Seems underwhelming considering we sent money with him.

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Postby King Colby » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm

Does a tucupita come with chips and guac

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Postby King Colby » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:37 pm

Suwinski appears to have solid power numbers in AA at age 22. Includes a .949 OPS in 250ish PAs.

Miliano is 21 and playing A-ball. Looks like he strikes out a million guys but walks a half million.

Marcano, also 21, has actually seen 50 PAs in San Diego this year, and hit really well in AAA. 200PAs 27BB 25K. Nice.

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Postby faftorial » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:43 pm

It sounds like a better than average return for the Pirates but we'll see.

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:48 pm

The tweet above seems to indicate we wanted this guy in the Musgrove deal. So I think that's good

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:49 pm

The Padres infield seems kinda full though so this one surprised me a bit

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:13 pm

From 2018:
Can Frazier actually hit though marsupial?
Yes.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:51 pm

The Padres infield seems kinda full though so this one surprised me a bit
I saw another tweet stating the Padres would use Frazier in a super utility role, including all three outfield positions. Must be nice to have the MLB hits leader as a utility player. :lol:

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Postby King Colby » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:19 pm

Lonnie White Jr signs

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