OFFICIAL GDT: ELECTION DAY/NIGHT -- BIDEN VS. TRUMP 11/3/20

Postby **MR25** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:44 pm

How is none of this illegal?

Wouldn't charging him now require the cooperation of the Republican-majority senate

Postby **Morkle** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:51 pm

They could impeach him again, but senate wouldn’t do anything. I don’t know how it works past that given 1/20 is it.

Postby **NTP66** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:54 pm

How many of the 5AFers who voted for him would still vote for him? I guarantee that number is greater than zero.

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:09 pm

Yes, because the other guy makes noises about taking guns away.

Postby **tifosi77** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:20 pm

How is none of this illegal?

Wouldn't charging him now require the cooperation of the Republican-majority senate

Charging him with criminal conduct would not involve the Congress. But because of the DOJ interpretation of the Constitution, they cannot do that until 12:01 PM on 1/20.

Fun fact about that DOJ Office of Legal Counsel memo: It was written in 1973 as Vice-president Spiro Agnew was embroiled in his own legal jeopardy, which was totally separate and apart from Watergate (he was actively soliciting and collecting cash bribes while in office). And in the midst of these parallel scandals, Nixon was struck with a major health scare. The Attorney General was worried that they might find themselves in a situation where Nixon could either be impeached or otherwise incapacitated, and see Agnew elevated to the presidency, which just wouldn't do. So the AG had the OLC concoct this (loopy) theory that it would be unconstitutional to charge the President with a federal crime while in office...... but the Vice-president most certainly could be charged. They wanted to underscore the legal peril Agnew faced - that he'd absolutely be facing prosecution - and that it would be in his best interest to vacate the office. Now. So the idea behind the memo was not to insulate the President, it was to expose the Vice-president.

Whee.

Postby **Morkle** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:18 pm

Full hour recording:

Postby **skullman80** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:07 pm

Anyone who tries to defend thst or spin that is a moron. Anyone who would say they would still vote or support him after hearing that is also a moron.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:32 pm

Anyone who tries to defend thst or spin that is a moron. Anyone who would say they would still vote or support him after hearing that is also a moron.

It'll be more like, person goes over and looks out their window, notes to themselves that there are no death squads roaming the neighborhood rounding up the democrat neighbors. Concludes that this another librul media hoax hyping up the Trump antics, goes to the internet and argues that people are overreacting.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:36 pm

How is none of this illegal?

Wouldn't charging him now require the cooperation of the Republican-majority senate

That is sort of my point in the subsequent post. The pretense that the president wouldn't engage in visible, egregious criminality which has thus resulted in no actual mechanism for controlling the actions of the president, has to be wiped out. That DOJ "can't indict the president" memo has to be overridden by actual, clearly explained laws that define the recourse for the president explicitly doing crimes to stay in office.

Postby **Viva la Ben** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:19 pm

Is this more terrifying to the fabric of the nation than trans pronouns?

Postby **PFiDC** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:38 pm

I’m just waiting to find out which Democrat did this 50 years ago so that we can call it no big deal.

Postby **MWB** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:33 pm

How many of the 5AFers who voted for him would still vote for him? I guarantee that number is greater than zero.

I’d guarantee that number hasn’t changed at all. People who voted for him, and some who abstained, do not see this as any big deal. It’s just words. It’s not tangible.

Postby **faftorial** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:34 pm

How many of the 5AFers who voted for him would still vote for him? I guarantee that number is greater than zero.
I’d guarantee that number hasn’t changed at all.

Postby **Willie Kool** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:55 pm

How is none of this illegal?

Anthony Michael Kreis, a Georgia State University law professor, said: “The Georgia code says that anybody who solicits, requests or commands or otherwise attempts to encourage somebody to commit election fraud is guilty of solicitation of election fraud. ‘Soliciting or requesting’ is the key language. The president asked, in no uncertain terms, the secretary of state to invent votes, to create votes that were not there. Not only did he ask for that in terms of just overturning the specific margin that Joe Biden won by, but then said we needed one additional vote to secure victory in Georgia.”

“There’s just no way that if you read the code and the way the code is structured, and then you look at what the president of the United states requested, that he has not violated this law — the spirit of it for sure,” Kreis continued.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/0 ... ion-454122

Postby **Morkle** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:02 pm

Trump suing Secretary of State Raffensperger over recorded call, Ga. RNC chairman says

Postby **tifosi77** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:05 pm

Georgia and Washington DC are both single-party consent jurisdictions re recording conversations. It's he suing as President (DOJ), or as Donald?

Postby **Viva la Ben** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:07 pm

I’ll bet there will be tapes coming out for years.

Postby **Morkle** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:08 pm

They’re saying it was part of a litigation for a settlement, for what exactly lol.

"President @realDonaldTrump has filed two lawsuits - federal and state - against @GaSecofState," Shafer tweeted. "The telephone conference call @GaSecofState secretly recorded was a 'confidential settlement discussion' of that litigation, which is still pending."

Trump tried to spin the story this morning and the GASec called his bluff and burned him. Now pissbaby is mad.

Postby **faftorial** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:10 pm

Trump suing Secretary of State Raffensperger over recorded call, Ga. RNC chairman says

Should be an interesting appearance by Trump tomorrow in GA.

Postby **Morkle** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:12 pm

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:45 pm

The amount of internet people who continue to defend and support this garbage human makes my head hurt.

Postby **Gaucho** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:20 am

Postby **NTP66** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:38 am

Pissbaby would know criminal.

Postby **count2infinity** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:56 am

Ya know what’s kind of wild about the phone call? None of what trump said is new. It’s sh*t that he and his cronies have been spewing all over Twitter and in interviews. Is it because it was on a phone call with an official that it’s news?

Postby **eddy** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:06 am

Just another day in the Trump presidency. You know what's going to come from this? Nothing, just like everything else. People who need help are going to continue to praise him, because I have no idea why. People who need help are going to continue to dodint and continue to get screwed. Can't wait until this **** is gone and we can dodint about the next guy.