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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:54 am

When we lived at the beach we'd donate our tree as they used them to stabilize the dunes. Now I usually cut off the branches and then cut the trunk into small sections and use them as fire pit logs in the summer.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:22 am

Source of the post fake, plastic trees
ISWYDT

The "supporting the Christmas tree farmer" take reminds me of our friends' dad. He said he liked to support credit card companies by keeping a rolling balance every month. Moral of the story: I ain't paying whatever it costs today ($50, $60?) for a tree that will be thrown away in a month.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:54 am

My wife started me on the fugazi trees back the first year we were married. We've had 3 such trees, and it's nice to have a consistent looking tree - that makes it easier for her to decorate.

The live trees we get down here are pretty pitiful, as we can have warm spells that dry them out on the tree lots. We like to have our tree up from Black Friday to NYD, and live trees look pretty sparse by late December. We water them, put tree conditioner, but still.

Every year I think we should give a live one a try, and get shot down each year. :lol:

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Postby blackjack68 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:29 am

Source of the post fake, plastic trees
ISWYDT

The "supporting the Christmas tree farmer" take reminds me of our friends' dad. He said he liked to support credit card companies by keeping a rolling balance every month. Moral of the story: I ain't paying whatever it costs today ($50, $60?) for a tree that will be thrown away in a month.
But, but the environment! 150 years in a landfill.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:54 am

Source of the post fake, plastic trees
ISWYDT

The "supporting the Christmas tree farmer" take reminds me of our friends' dad. He said he liked to support credit card companies by keeping a rolling balance every month. Moral of the story: I ain't paying whatever it costs today ($50, $60?) for a tree that will be thrown away in a month.
But, but the environment! 150 years in a landfill.
By that time Musk and his minions will have realized Mars is uninhabitable but very useful as a trash depository.

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Postby MWB » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:01 am

My understanding is that Christmas tree farms are actually quite sustainable. In fact, they are more sustainable than fake, plastic trees.

It takes me about 5 minutes to get the tree to the curb and another 10 to vacuum up the needles
Yeah, don’t really get how fake are easier, unless it’s a prelit one.

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Postby shoeshine boy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:02 am

I use a fake tree for 1 big reason: it's pre-lit. when I was a kid it was my job to untangle and hang the lights on the tree. I've had enough of that for a lifetime.

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Postby CBear3 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:14 am

First big fight my wife had was real vs fake (trees). We switched back to a real tree once the kids were old enough to come along and pick them out. So opening weekend (usually the week before Thanksgiving) we go out and cut a 8' white pine from the farm. The needles at the end of the season are a pain (our Dyson can't handle them) but throw it on top of the vehicle and drive it to the city collection center where they take them for free and mulch them for the city parks' landscape beds.

Also, it's ~$80 FYI. But its at least a full hour of fun for the fam. I still have the pre-lit fake one in the attic for when the basement is finished and we'll be a 2 tree household.

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Postby blackjack68 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:26 am

7.5’ Douglas Fir for us. Nice to get out and wander the tree farm. Although we don’t go until the second weekend in December. But then the tree stays up until my birthday in mid-January.

Our township collects them curbside and then mulches them and offers mulch to the public.

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Postby MWB » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:40 am

Trees here definitely vary in price. Can get them for $35 at food lion. At tree lots they’re generally 70-120.

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Postby blackjack68 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:49 am

Precut trees can typically be from Oregon or Canada or the Carolinas depending on variety.

We cut our own and it’s typically in the $10 a foot range.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:29 pm

There's a local guy that is more expensive than going to Home Depot, but his trees are all grown and cut in PA. Over the last seven years, I have never had any needle drop issues, and we keep our tree up a solid month and a half. My understanding is that the trees you often see at Home Depot, etc., are imported from Canada so have been out of the ground for a longer period of time.

Maybe once the kids get older we will start going out and cutting our own tree, but that's a bridge too far right now.

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Postby AuthorTony » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:21 pm

Precut trees can typically be from Oregon or Canada or the Carolinas depending on variety.

We cut our own and it’s typically in the $10 a foot range.
I stayed at a rental cabin in western NC about 9 years ago. There were miles and miles of Christmas tree fields (groves?) around there. It was pretty cool to see.

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:27 pm

Wouldn't that just be a forest? I really don't know if the fact that it's tended matters.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:32 pm

Wouldn't that just be a forest? I really don't know if the fact that it's tended matters.
Next time I go to an apple forest I'll ask

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:34 pm

I guess for me the distinction is you're harvesting the whole tree from the forest. Whereas in a tended grove you're harvesting just the yield of fruit.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:37 pm

I'm guessing if you're replanting the trees you've harvested, it's going to get a special name. The term forest to me implies something that is naturally existing, not man-made.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:39 pm

Our first house had 9' ceilings, so the two Christmases we lived there we got real trees. But otherwise we've rolled with a 6' pre-lit artificial.

When we lived in our first apartment, our 'tree' was 2' tall fake shrub. lol

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:40 pm

Yeah, but when you timber a forest it grows back as a young forest (or brush).

I'm not saying you're wrong or disagreeing, just curious about the distinction.

It's called a nursery, anyway. I forgot I used to live in Armbrust which was exactly that, trees everywhere in the nursery. No idea how that slipped my mind until right now.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:32 pm

Source of the post I'm not saying you're wrong or disagreeing, just curious about the distinction.
Same here. I'm no horticulturalist, botanist, arborist or play any of those on TV

I'd say timbering a forest is man-handling it, so now it's a different definition. Again, not an arborist but I'd venture to guess that most timbering today happens in pre-planted areas, not virgin forest.

I took a business trip to South Africa in 2016 and we drove 5 hours from Johannesburg to Richard's Bay. About 2 hours of that trip was pure lumber. The trees were perfectly planted in rows on one side of the road, with the railroad on the opposite side of the road. You'd go miles with one type of tree, then it'd change to another type for 10 or so miles.

And as I typed that, I had a hard time not calling it forest. So, throwing in the towel on this debate.

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Postby blackjack68 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:32 pm

Tree Farm or Nursery is acceptable. In this area, tree farm is usually reserved for Christmas trees and Nursery is used for landscaping trees that are typically sold balled and bagged.

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:40 pm

I also used to lived near a Tree Farm but figured that was colloquial. Sadly that tree farm is gone, I googled it earlier today to see if it was still there. (Nelson's outside of Whitney)

Maybe my fondness for Christmas Vacation is clouding my thought here, as they were in a forest.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:46 am

Die Hard with a Vengeance > Die Hard (1)

albeit I watched Vengeance a lot more growing up

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Postby Kane » Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:39 am

Pull your finger out of your ass. Die Hard is GOAT in the series.

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Postby skullman80 » Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:12 am

Die Hard with a Vengeance > Die Hard (1)

albeit I watched Vengeance a lot more growing up
Realllyyyyyy bad take. Die Hard with a vengeance is better than Die Hard 2 though.

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