Politics And Current Events

[NTP66]

[CBear3]

maybe a question for the legal thread but why’d we have to wait until a lawsuit before this law was challenged legally?

The very short answer is that courts generally (not always, but generally) deal only with actual controversies and not hypothetical situations. A longer but still short answer is that there are all sorts of novel procedural questions and barriers that were intentionally baked into the Texas law, including who has standing to sue and who can be sued, and an actual lawsuit answers some (but not all) of those questions. The longest answer is in the below series of posts at the Volokh Conspiracy. Note that the procedural complexities of this law are such that six posts isn't enough to talk about all of them (a seventh post is forthcoming).

The Procedural Puzzles of SB8, Part I: Litigating Constitutional Rights
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/10/th ... al-rights/

The Procedural Puzzles of SB8, Part II: Failing Offensive Litigation
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/12/th ... itigation/

The Procedural Puzzles of SB8, Part III: Suing Private Plaintiffs
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/13/th ... laintiffs/

The Procedural Puzzles of SB8, Part IV: Test Cases for Defensive State-Court Litigation
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/14/th ... itigation/

The Procedural Puzzles of SB8, Part V: Standing in State-Court Litigation
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/15/th ... itigation/

The Procedural Puzzles of SB8, Part VI: Federal Defenses in SB8 Actions
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/20/th ... 8-actions/

Anyone who says "the Supreme Court should have already stepped in to block this law" is glossing over the huge procedural complexities in this whole matter. If one is not familiar with how the legal system works, saying that a case can't move because of "procedural" issues may sound like a cop-out based on technicalities. But questions of injury-in-fact, standing, etc. are fundamental to the jurisdiction of federal courts to act in the first place, so they could not be more important when it comes to any federal suit.

I guess you need actual grounds for an injunction, rather than, "There's no way this can be kosher, but I'm not sure how to explain it away right now"

[Viva la Ben]

[shmenguin]

Speaking of no actual accountability taking place…What’s the future of the Hatch Act at this point? What were there…something like > 100 clear violations in 2020 alone?

Seems like you might as well junk the whole thing. The Dems will obey it even if it’s just a *guideine*, them being a giant bunch of pussies n’all.

[dodint]

Hatch Act will continue to be used to crush us peon federal employees that talk politics too loudly in our cubes.

As someone that doesn't talk politics at work I am okay with that.

[NTP66]

Source of the post As someone that doesn't talk politics at work I am okay with that.

[eddy]

And nothing will come of it. It's unreal to me how much money you can make by going through the government machine. This place is broken.

[tifosi77]

The idea of separating debt and spending is asinine.

[Gaucho]

[DigitalGypsy66]

Riding around town over the last few weeks, I noticed several memorials to the 13 Marines that got killed in Afghanistan. One such yard had boots, and a uniform centered among 13 American flags. It was up, then taken down for a birthday party (rented a big inflatable). I thought, "Oh, they'll be done now." Well, it went back up again. Flags are still at half mast.

I don't recall any such memorials over the last 20 years. What makes these special? "Their guy" isn't POTUS?

[NTP66]

Source of the post "Their guy" isn't POTUS?

Exactly.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ne ... accination

Tired of woke politics, COVID vaccine mandates? There's a new job site for you

"The whole thesis of the job board was 'free to work,'" Crapuchettes said. "What if employers treated their employees like adults and didn't require vaccinations or certain pronouns, or making their logo a rainbow flag in June and just let people work and left identity politics out of the office space?"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[PFiDC]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ne ... accination

Tired of woke politics, COVID vaccine mandates? There's a new job site for you

"The whole thesis of the job board was 'free to work,'" Crapuchettes said. "What if employers treated their employees like adults and didn't require vaccinations or certain pronouns, or making their logo a rainbow flag in June and just let people work and left identity politics out of the office space?"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I bet these jobs pay really well...

[NTP66]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ne ... accination

Tired of woke politics, COVID vaccine mandates? There's a new job site for you

"The whole thesis of the job board was 'free to work,'" Crapuchettes said. "What if employers treated their employees like adults and didn't require vaccinations or certain pronouns, or making their logo a rainbow flag in June and just let people work and left identity politics out of the office space?"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I bet these jobs pay really well...

The company of 70 employees is seeing a wave of possible hires, most notably those who are willing to give up great salaries and benefits — even in long-term careers — to work for the firm.

[PFiDC]

wellthereitis.goldblum.gif

[MR25]

Their offer is 8 bucks an hour because "that's more than minimum wage"

[PFiDC]

Good. Let's go further. Stick all these people in Florida or Texas and then wall it off. I'm not even joking at this point. Give them their own country and let them do their own thing.

[mikey]

Welcome to Troy and I's America*...minus the wall...let's just break up already, it's literally a toxic relationship...

[DigitalGypsy66]

Speaking of walls, evidently we have Border Patrol agents chasing Haitians around on horseback using bullwhips...talk about awful optics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/us/p ... hotos.html

So there's no way to let these people into the country, get them acclimated, and get them to work in these industries that struggle to find labor?

Or am I a smooth-brained libtard?

[PFiDC]

Speaking of walls, evidently we have Border Patrol agents chasing Haitians around on horseback using bullwhips...talk about awful optics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/us/p ... hotos.html

So there's no way to let these people into the country, get them acclimated, and get them to work in these industries that struggle to find labor?

Or am I a smooth-brained libtard?

STOP GIVING AWAY ALL THE JOBS THAT HARD WORKING AMERICANS WOULD HAVE IF NOT FOR THESE IMMIGRANTS!!!

[mikey]

Maybe they can find work as whip makers...?

[willeyeam]

Defend our border right?

[NTP66]

Maybe they can find work as whip makers...?

"Made by the child who you are 83% likely to whip in the next 6 months"

[Troy Loney]

Good job Bill

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

lol. reminds me of the Tosh bit about Sandusky

"How about when Sandusky was asked point-blank on national television if he’s sexually attracted to boys and he waited around 16 seconds to apply, and I quote, “Eh”? If you don’t think I was at home pissing myself… Like, “Oh, did he just waffle on that softball question?” “Eh.” Ask me if I’m sexually attracted to kids. I’m not. That’s how long you should wait to answer that question. You don’t mull it over for a bit. You certainly don’t eyeball your lawyer. “I wonder how he wants me to answer this one.”"