Politics And Current Events

Postby **NAN** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:51 am

Pissbaby endorsement coming in 3... 2...

Yep. A lot of them harp on how he is dangerous, but will support him because they don't want to lose their jobs.

Postby **count2infinity** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:54 am

She said she'd stay in until at least Super Tuesday. Good for hear, she kept her word.

Postby **Morkle** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:13 am

Apparently she's not endorsing him, but challenging him to earn the trust of her followers.

Postby **eddy** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:15 am

Apparently she's not endorsing him, but challenging him to earn the trust of her followers.

Hahahahahah thanks, I needed that this morning

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:25 am

That's just as pathetic, which is not at all surprising.

Postby **Morkle** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:31 am

So not for the Musk thread - but I've been thinking about this. How does a guy who leads the head of a major U.S. defense contractor get to say Joe Biden is committing Treason on X? Especially if he's meeting with Trump to be a donor? Thing seems awfully murkey there, yea?

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:32 am

I'll just say that I won't be surprised if he doesn't get as many gov't. contracts in the future.

Postby **Morkle** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:44 am

Also I saw someone use the phrase Dementia Don today. That's a good one.

Postby **MR25** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:46 am

Dare I ask what Musk thinks is worthy of the treason label?

Postby **Morkle** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:47 am

Something to do with the immigration stuff.

Postby **tifosi77** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:38 am

And that's Steve Garvey, as in the former San Diego Padre/LA Dodger Steve Garvey?

It sure is!

Postby **tifosi77** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:45 am

I'll just say that I won't be surprised if he doesn't get as many gov't. contracts in the future.

These often aren't super competitive bids. The country isn't exactly awash in viable spaceflight alternatives.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:59 pm

Oy. Haiti is barreling into a civil war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... e-minister

Postby **count2infinity** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:05 pm

LinkedIn is down

Postby **nocera** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:07 pm

LinkedIn is down

How's X formerly known as Twitter?

Postby **Pavel Bure** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:25 pm

LinkedIn is down

Please say someone nuke’d it out of existence. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Postby **count2infinity** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:25 pm

I do not use Xwitter. I wouldn't know.

Postby **Shyster** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:21 pm

So not for the Musk thread - but I've been thinking about this. How does a guy who leads the head of a major U.S. defense contractor get to say Joe Biden is committing Treason on X? Especially if he's meeting with Trump to be a donor? Thing seems awfully murkey there, yea?

No, because we have free speech and free association in this country, and First Amendment retaliation is illegal. Under Board of Comm'rs, Wabaunsee Cty. v. Umbehr, 518 U.S. 668 (1996) and O'Hare Truck Service, Inc. v. City of Northlake, 518 U.S. 712 (1996), it is illegal for the government to either: (1) terminate or refuse to renew a government contract in retaliation for an independent government contractor's exercise of the freedom of speech; or (2) retaliate against a contractor or a provider of services for the exercise of rights of political association or the expression of political allegiance, which includes campaigning against the reelection of a government official and/or supporting the political opponent of a government official.

In other words, if the fedgov terminates SpaceX as a contractor based on what Elon Musk says about Joe Biden, or who Elon Musk associates with, or who Elon may choose to donate to or to support or not support in an election, Elon would get even richer because SpaceX would sue the fedgov and win.

Postby **tifosi77** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:01 am

"“I fear our revolution will have been in vain if a Virginia farmer is to be held in hock to a New York stock jobber, who in turn is in hock to a London banker. The opportunities for avarice and corruption would certainly prove irresistible.” Thomas Jefferson expressing his instinctive revulsion to Alexander Hamilton's debt plan, in one of the better scenes from HBO's "John Adams"

Never mind cancelling contracts. Imagine the President's biggest personal creditor being the CEO of a government contractor.

Postby **Shyster** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:26 am

Anyone wanting to buy a politician would have to get in line behind big oil, big pharma, and Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and every other member of the military-industrial complex. That's a horse the left the barn decades ago.

Postby **CBear3** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:46 am

We should probably do something about that.

Postby **count2infinity** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:27 am

We should probably do something about that.

Free speech, brah.

Postby **Kaiser** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:38 am

We should probably do something about that.

Did someone say "bomb the middle east"? You got it!

Postby **tifosi77** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:59 am

Yes, yes, yes, yes.............I remember that time that all other previous presidents were personally financially indebted to defense contractor CEOs to the tune of potentially hundreds of millions of American monies.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:14 pm

Anyone wanting to buy a politician would have to get in line behind big oil, big pharma, and Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and every other member of the military-industrial complex. That's a horse the left the barn decades ago.

So let me get this straight.

We're okay with the government officials taking bribes, but we're not okay with government action as a result of a bribe?

So like, sure do all the bribing and favoritism you want, but you may absolutely not have your precious government contracts terminated for bribing the opponent.