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Postby Shyster » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:44 pm

I love my vibe. I want something similar. Don’t care what it’s called.

I'd also take a look at the Kia Soul, if you like hatchbacks. It's right around the same size as the Kona but offers more interior and cargo space, and it also offers a turbo option with slightly more horses than the Kona.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:54 pm

It looks like a life sized micro machine.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:24 pm

6 month old Mazda with <6000 mi on it is in the shop with a bad airbag that they didn’t have in stock. Since it is a safety issue though they gave a nice brand new loaner CX-5 .

Still…. Not real happy with my new car already being in the shop.
Car still in the shop, called Lemon Law attorney. PA law is that if it spends 30 consecutive days in the shop with a safety issue you are entitled to a new vehicle or what you paid less mileage. We'll see how this goes. Maybe they'll miraculously find an airbag.

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Postby dodint » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:36 pm

6 month old Mazda with <6000 mi on it is in the shop with a bad airbag that they didn’t have in stock. Since it is a safety issue though they gave a nice brand new loaner CX-5 .

Still…. Not real happy with my new car already being in the shop.
Car still in the shop, called Lemon Law attorney. PA law is that if it spends 30 consecutive days in the shop with a safety issue you are entitled to a new vehicle or what you paid less mileage. We'll see how this goes. Maybe they'll miraculously find an airbag.
Bruh. :|

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:07 pm

He said lemon law attorney, not lemon law dodint.

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Postby count2infinity » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:11 pm

I love my vibe. I want something similar. Don’t care what it’s called.

I'd also take a look at the Kia Soul, if you like hatchbacks. It's right around the same size as the Kona but offers more interior and cargo space, and it also offers a turbo option with slightly more horses than the Kona.
I've considered them... in fact that car came out right around the time I bought the vibe. I test drove it and didn't like it, which has kept me away from even contemplating it recently, but that was 12-13 years ago. I'd imagine there's been serious changes to it since then.

The HRV has surprisingly great interior room... the engine just blows, and there aren't really any options to upgrade it.

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Postby dodint » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Hyundai Velosters are really nice for what they are. Unless you're looking for a 5-door, then it's not going to work for you.

I test drove the Veloster against the Cooper and ultimately went with the MINI because the roof was a little higher.

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Postby faftorial » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:05 pm

It looks like a life sized micro machine.
2021 models are your last chance to get a manual transmission in the Soul.

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Postby Shyster » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:09 pm

I have the same engine in my Kia Forte5 hatch that the turbo Soul offers. I'm very fond of it. It's tuned more for plentiful torque than high horsepower, but 200 is nothing to sneeze at, especially for a relatively light car. Not sure why the basically the same engine in the Kona turbo offers like 10 fewer horsepower. Having grown accustomed to a car that offers more-than-usual power, I don't think I could go back to something slower.

IIRC, Hyundai has stopped selling all versions of the Veloster other than the top-of-the-line Veloster N. The N starts close to $30,000 and can run over $30k with options, which is VW GTI territory.

I figure I have maybe one more new internal-combustion car before I go electric. I'm not buying anything soon, but I'm thinking along the lines of a Golf R or Civic Type R for that future purchase. Given that I want a hatch with a manual transmission, there aren't many options available.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:13 pm

I love my vibe.
TWSS

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Postby scb147 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:14 pm

The HRV has surprisingly great interior room... the engine just blows, and there aren't really any options to upgrade it.
HR-V is a new model for 2023, so hopefully the engine has been upgraded. Sad that the current HR-V engine is the same that's in my 2012 Civic.

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Postby Shyster » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:27 pm

A lot of current Hondas look to me like they were just in a very minor front-end fender-bender that smashed out parts of the grille. I'm not overly fond of their current styling theme.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:30 pm

You also like the styling of minivans.

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Postby dodint » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:31 pm

If VW Cabriolets were Bitch Boxes in the 90s are minivans Karen Crates?

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:32 pm

Ohhh, I like that.

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Postby dodint » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:33 pm

The filter would've caught the C word I wanted to use initially. *ahem*

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:35 pm

:lol: Thank you.

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:55 pm

Going to test drive an Expedition this weekend

(trigger warning, Factorial)

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Postby faftorial » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:07 pm

What does that run? $70K?

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Postby faftorial » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:10 pm

$76K for this one:

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That's a sorry looking grill.

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:13 pm

This one's used. Mid $40s

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Postby faftorial » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:17 pm

The Expedition is no longer a F-150?

Do they still make the Excursion? I think that was based on the F-250.

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:39 pm

Nope. Expedition is it.

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Postby Kane » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:02 pm

I hope demand isn't still nutso in a couple years when I'm looking for a truck. I'd hate to be going to dealers right now.

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