Steelers 2023-2024 Season Thread

[Rylan]

lol yall a buncha yinzers at times. its great.

[Morkle]

When you have bottom of the barrel QBs/coaches, gotta look anywhere you can.

[nocera]

I was thinking we trade for Mahomes. He’s clearly unhappy in Kansas City.

[Ad@m]

[Rylan]

lol okay thats actually funny.

[Morkle]

Super fun watching every other QB throw touchdowns, even when they had never seen the NFL field before.

[tifosi77]

Don't know if this is accurate, but I saw someone say Joe Flacco has more games w 250 yds and at least 2 TDs as a Brown than the Steelers do since 7 retired. He has played two games as a Brown.

[count2infinity]

This might come as a huge surprise to people in this thread, but the Steelers offense is not very good.

[Rylan]

This might come as a huge surprise to people in this thread, but the Steelers offense is not very good.

Whaaaaaaaaaaa?

[nocera]

Ben crying that the "Steeler Way" left when he did and it wasn't passed down to this current offensive group is so **** cringe. Also, wouldn't it have been his responsibility to pass that stupid **** down? Personally, I hope the Steeler Way is dead and the team can finally move into modern times.

[Trip McNeely]

Ben crying that the "Steeler Way" left when he did and it wasn't passed down to this current offensive group is so **** cringe. Also, wouldn't it have been his responsibility to pass that stupid **** down? Personally, I hope the Steeler Way is dead and the team can finally move into modern times.

Ben was on the team with Bell and Brown. Ben also was accused of multiple sexual assaults. Maybe Ben should shut the f up

[dodint]

Ben was an anti-leader. I don't care what he has to say.

[Morkle]

Winning is the Steeler way, and I bet it comes back when they have a new coach. Winning in the playoffs, was the ultimate Steelers way.

[King Colby]

The Steelers Way is pretending you hold yourselves to a higher standard

[tifosi77]

There's zero amount of give-a-s**t on the offensive side of the football, and there's no one with leadership authority capable of stepping up and demanding/imposing it. And no amount of firings of coordinators or coaches can instill it.

You can get away with me-first knuckleheads in the locker room when there are other guys there to keep them in check - we all make fun of Lev Bell costing himself over $10 million in holding out, and how AB was 'under control' when he was in Pittsburgh and became a farce almost the moment he left. But maybe that wasn't Tomlin keeping those guys somewhat grounded and getting insanely productive football out of them. Maybe it was the leaders in the locker room that held them to account. And once those problem child players left the influence of those leaders, they imploded.

We have no way of knowing, because we're not in that club. We won't ever be privy to that world. But Ben's point about dudes on defense (Cam, TJ, Minkah) vs the complete absence of that kind of character on offense...... I mean, it rings true. Put it in the context of today - what do you think would've happened to Diontae Johnson if he chose to pout next to a fumble, or GP14 half-speeding his ass downfield 6, 7 times a game, if, say, Maurkice Pouncey* were in a huddle with them? There's no accountability.



* In his case, I've always felt that was the biggest indication that Myles Garrett was lying about what Rudolph said in that incident in 2019.... because if Rudolph had talked like that, Pouce would've eaten his liver on the spot. imo

[Dickie Dunn]

Yea Ben being a certified shithead doesn't mean he's wrong. Tomlin is a bad coach and whether he includes himself in the list or not, the offensive leaders when he joined (Bettis, Hines, Faneca, Hartings) and future leaders throughout his career (Heath, Pouncey, DeCastro, Foster, and even someone like Batch) are long gone. Even a shithead like AB was constantly credited as the hardest worker imaginable when he would decide to show up. This team doesn't have anything close to that.

[nocera]

What got me was him dodinting that it wasn’t passed down to the new guys. **** that would be your job. Was the rumor that Ben had his own locker room ever confirmed? Or that he didn’t practice on Wednesdays?

[tifosi77]

How many offensive players are still here from Ben's final season? Naj, Muth, and Moore I think were all rooks that year. DJ was in his second season. Okorafor? That's the leadership cadre?

It isn't osmosis. You don't just become a leader through proximity. If what Ben is saying is an accurate take, then I think it's reasonable to say this vacuum probably started to form more like 5-6 years ago, and it's only now manifesting in an outwardly visible way. Just speaking on the offensive side of the ball, over time you go from half the room being step up guys with only a couple of dingleberries to keep in check; to inverting that ratio, so there's only 2 or 3 guys to keep the room squared away; and then suddenly you find yourself in a position where you've got basically none guys. It's atrophy.

Some of it is coaching, some of it is top-down ownership, some of it is personality driven. (There isn't enough heart in all of Christendom to make a leader out of Diontae Johnson, for example.)

But I do think that a disproportionate amount of these issues would be addressable by the presence of a legit NFL #1 QB in the room. That solves a lot of problems, or at least tempers their impact.

[King Colby]

Success creates leaders too. Why would anyone want to follow the bums on that offense?

[Dickie Dunn]

**** no. Idiot for an OC, revolving door of ineffective OL, QBs that either suck, are hamstrung by the offense, or both, diva WRs that never get the ball, another UPS softie at TE, and your run of the mill overrated Bama RB underperforming his draft position. There's no one there to follow.

[robbiestoupe]

Success creates leaders too. Why would anyone want to follow the bums on that offense?

^

[King Colby]

I just found out the steelers are scheduled to ruin my Saturday. Great

[count2infinity]

Don’t worry. After back to back stankers, it’d be totally Tomlin to just dominate today.

[DigitalGypsy66]

Jim Irsay tweeted that the Colts are 6-26 against the Steelers since 1957...I don't put a lot of stock in historical records, especially in football, but yikes...

[willeyeam]

TJ in a tinted visor. Better get him in the tent now