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Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:05 pm
by Troy Loney


This is saying a lot about Cruz. But based on the back end there, not sure these folks know what they are talking about

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:21 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Pretty sure 7 through 10 are made up and only three guys have faces. Nothing about this is good.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:39 pm
by Troy Loney
Pretty sure 7 through 10 are made up and only three guys have faces. Nothing about this is good.
Ultimately it doesn't matter.

Davis and Gonzalez are both high floor bat-first prospects so are almost assured to make it to the majors, and at worst stick around. Roansy and Priester could both easily be worthless at the ML level. Cruz is just such a wildcard and ranking him above safe prospects Davis and Gonzalez, means something. Or these dudes just do these ranking based on hype and buzz, which Cruz generated with his post-injury sprint from Altoona to Pgh.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:32 pm
by willeyeam
Fire Mitch Keller into outer space and find another stud SP and I like the looks of this


Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pm
by Dickie Dunn
I’ll eat mikey’s digested coat hanger if Keller is here and worth a damn in 2025.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pm
by Troy Loney
Also, that Cody Duncan dude is an idiot. I appreciate that he finds and shares clips, but his "analysis" is sub-Tim Williams.

He probably saw this, Matt Frazier in the projection, and felt unprecedented levels of vindication

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:44 pm
by robbiestoupe
I’ll eat mikey’s digested coat hanger if Keller is here and worth a damn in 2025.
I'll eat DD's redigested coat hanger if half that lineup is correct in 2025.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:04 pm
by Troy Loney


That’s the exact pitcher at the exact price I wanted the pirates to ink

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:23 pm
by willeyeam
That would have been nice. Obviously it would take some sort of premium to get him to leave for here. But worth it imo

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:53 pm
by King Colby
Any similar type Pitchers available?

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:55 pm
by Troy Loney
Those two Rockies starters. And there are some others like happ that would be more one year deal types

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:57 pm
by Ad@m

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:58 pm
by Ad@m
@MrKennethTKangaroo


Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:14 pm
by willeyeam
Does Ben Gamel have to come back?

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:02 am
by Troy Loney
I can see Brault, kuhl and Moran all being non-tendered.

I saw something earlier this week, looking like there is going to be a ton of non-tenders across the league, essentially a second wave free agency.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:09 am
by Troy Loney
With the “big” signings out of the way. Inventory check.

3B, C and CF, no questions.

Newman likely the starter at short to start, but he is being dangled, so they could potentially open that spot for Cruz for opening day.

Chavis, castro and tucker could be in the mix at second.

I guess Moran at first for now, but he could be cut and the job given to yoshi.

Corners, guessing gamel, yoshi, and tucker?

SP-Brubaker, quintana, Wilson, peters…..

Actually, god knows, they have like 11 of the same guy on their 40-man.

The pitching staff is ****

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:02 am
by MrKennethTKangaroo
Alford will get some run at a corner, at least to start. I wish Colin Moran and his weenie approach at the plate nothing but the best in his future endeavors

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:14 am
by King Colby
Does Ben Gamel have to come back?
Lol it's very weird to me that everyone just annoints Ben gamel as our sure fire everyday LF

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:21 am
by King Colby
Not sure I believe Moran gets non-tendered just because Yoshi also bats left. I guess my predicted batters are:

C - Stallings, FA1
IF - Hayes Tucker Newman Moran Chavis FA2
OF - Reynolds gamel Alford yoshi Allen

Where FA1 is Michael Perez or similar and FA2 is wilmer difo or similar.

Cruz starts in AAA, Castro never gets meaningful PT in pittsburgh.

Theyll keep Moran because he can play 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:11 pm
by MrKennethTKangaroo
Not sure I believe Moran gets non-tendered just because Yoshi also bats left. I guess my predicted batters are:

C - Stallings, FA1
IF - Hayes Tucker Newman Moran Chavis FA2
OF - Reynolds gamel Alford yoshi Allen

Where FA1 is Michael Perez or similar and FA2 is wilmer difo or similar.

Cruz starts in AAA, Castro never gets meaningful PT in pittsburgh.

Theyll keep Moran because he can play 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

You and the rest of the baseball universe have a different definition of “can” when it comes to Moran playing 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:29 pm
by King Colby
Valid. Personally I hope they shoot discount Adam Laroche into outer space but they think he has versatility

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:25 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Former related, Frazier traded to Seattle after sucking in San Diego and Marte signs with the Mets for $78MM over 4 years. He’s really taken it to another level in his post-Pirates career.

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:47 pm
by Troy Loney


Franco trade date released

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:48 pm
by King Colby
2025?

Pittsburgh Pirates 2021-2022 Offseason Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:53 pm
by faftorial
Former related, Frazier traded to Seattle after sucking in San Diego and Marte signs with the Mets for $78MM over 4 years. He’s really taken it to another level in his post-Pirates career.
What, his use of roids?