COVID-19

[Dickie Dunn]

Case being reported in Rhode Island. Patient recently returned from Italy.

[Gaucho]

I'm seeing all these recommendations on how to not contract it and one says to wash your hands regularly. Umm, isn't that an every day recommendation, not a COVID19 recommendation?

TIL half the Netherlands does not wash after touching their nether regions

[count2infinity]

Case being reported in Rhode Island. Patient recently returned from Italy.

It's over... let it run. Cull the heard.

[shafnutz05]

Regarding that study... I would be far more interested in a study that compares #1 vs. #2. Because I've been in really nasty bathrooms for #1 where I guarantee the inside of my shorts is more sanitary than any part of that bathroom, and there is no way I was washing my hands in there. I keep hand sanitizer in the car for that reason.

[Gaucho]

I'm not sure I'd call it a study.

[LeopardLetang]

Washing hands after peeing is overrated. But mentally my hands seem radioactive until i wash them after exiting Goodwill

[mac5155]

Washing hands after peeing is overrated. But mentally my hands seem radioactive until i wash them after exiting Goodwill

My mother in law drives me nuts with goodwill. Like every week she has stuff for my kid from goodwill. Just junk really.

[Freddy Rumsen]

Here is a good example of our media being unnecessarily scaremongering to drive clicks.

Total cases now? 88.

But "35%" and "skyrocketed" are panic inducing.

[willeyeam]

Below are thoughts from an actual medical professional. If the media sounds alarmist then so be it, better safe than sorry.

A few random musings:

Wuhan is the size of LA. They quarantined Wuhan. Imagine the logistics of shutting down LA.

Before the quarantine of Wuhan started, allegedly 500K - 3M residents fled the city.

The mortality rate for ebola is approx. 40-50%, for presective.

The data that we are seeing from China is what they are actually reporting. Scientists within our government think these estimates are off 100-800%.

There are two or three countries in SE Asia that have a prevalence that is not being reported. The case reported in Iran they cannot trace origin from an epidemiology standpoint is very concerning. It could indicate a number of things, all of which are not good.

We should be very worried and we are underprepared. The government is trying not to be alarmist, but we need to be. The testing guidelines and epidemiologic analysis of where the risk areas are is incorrect, from my opinion. Please wash your hands.

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Troy Loney]

That’s assuming Iran has identified anywhere near their Total number of cases.

Another case of percentages being scary.

[shoeshine boy]

a friend of mine has a trip planned with her family to Maui for mid-March. last night she told me that her SIL has the entire family panicked that if they go, they might not be allowed back on the Mainland so now they're cancelling the trip. I believe my friend's exact words were, "I didn't realize that I was related to morons!"

[Gaucho]

Aren't we all.

[Dickie Dunn]

a friend of mine has a trip planned with her family to Maui for mid-March. last night she told me that her SIL has the entire family panicked that if they go, they might not be allowed back on the Mainland so now they're cancelling the trip. I believe my friend's exact words were, "I didn't realize that I was related to morons!"

Not being allowed back on the mainland sounds like a reason to go.

We’re trying to create a contingency plan for the Italian portion of our trip to Europe in May. Might just end up scrapping it for somewhere else.

[grunthy]

That’s assuming Iran has identified anywhere near their Total number of cases.

Another case of percentages being scary.

While I obviously don’t believe the numbers from China and Iran, the hysteria is out of control. Watch the South Korea numbers over the next couple of weeks. If their mortality stays the same or slight increase, then this is basically another version of the flu. If it start to rise a lot, then there is something to start worrying a little more.

[Gaucho]

a friend of mine has a trip planned with her family to Maui for mid-March. last night she told me that her SIL has the entire family panicked that if they go, they might not be allowed back on the Mainland so now they're cancelling the trip. I believe my friend's exact words were, "I didn't realize that I was related to morons!"

Not being allowed back on the mainland sounds like a reason to go.

We’re trying to create a contingency plan for the Italian portion of our trip to Europe in May. Might just end up scrapping it for somewhere else.

Go to Spain and/or Portugal, visit Madrid, Cadiz, Sevilla, Cuenca, Roda, Granada, Segovia, Porto, Lisboa, Vigo, San Sebastian, Valencia, and/or Malaga instead.

[Troy Loney]

That’s assuming Iran has identified anywhere near their Total number of cases.

Another case of percentages being scary.

While I obviously don’t believe the numbers from China and Iran, the hysteria is out of control. Watch the South Korea numbers over the next couple of weeks. If their mortality stays the same or slight increase, then this is basically another version of the flu. If it start to rise a lot, then there is something to start worrying a little more.

I think it’s more of an economic crisis than a health crisis. Measures to stop the spread could cause market gridlocks.

[CBear3]

While I obviously don’t believe the numbers from China and Iran, the hysteria is out of control. Watch the South Korea numbers over the next couple of weeks. If their mortality stays the same or slight increase, then this is basically another version of the flu. If it start to rise a lot, then there is something to start worrying a little more.

What also needs to be considered is that South Korea is doing drive through screenings. They're making it as easy as possible for anybody with a slight tingle in their throat to get tested. So in their numbers you're going to have a lot of those carriers who aren't really showing symptoms. Meanwhile, many other countries have much stricter requirements for testing, so you're getting a worse case scenario there.
Italy at 2.5%, France at 2%, Japan at 2%. I expect those to be the normal numbers in countries that aren't doing wholesale testing.

When compared to the 18-19 flu season, 16.5 million sought help & 34k died. That's .2%

The 1918-19 flu pandemic had a mortality rate just north of 2.5%, but it preyed on the young as well which COVID-19 does not appear to do. Also, the infection rate was much higher than it is with COVID-19.

So it really lines up to be an equivalent Influenza virus, but we don't have vaccine yet to protect the at risk populations.

[grunthy]

While I obviously don’t believe the numbers from China and Iran, the hysteria is out of control. Watch the South Korea numbers over the next couple of weeks. If their mortality stays the same or slight increase, then this is basically another version of the flu. If it start to rise a lot, then there is something to start worrying a little more.

What also needs to be considered is that South Korea is doing drive through screenings. They're making it as easy as possible for anybody with a slight tingle in their throat to get tested. So in their numbers you're going to have a lot of those carriers who aren't really showing symptoms. Meanwhile, many other countries have much stricter requirements for testing, so you're getting a worse case scenario there.
Italy at 2.5%, France at 2%, Japan at 2%. I expect those to be the normal numbers in countries that aren't doing wholesale testing.

When compared to the 18-19 flu season, 16.5 million sought help & 34k died. That's .2%

The 1918-19 flu pandemic had a mortality rate just north of 2.5%, but it preyed on the young as well which COVID-19 does not appear to do. Also, the infection rate was much higher than it is with COVID-19.

So it really lines up to be an equivalent Influenza virus, but we don't have vaccine yet to protect the at risk populations.

I think 61-80k died from flu last year.

[CBear3]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

CDC's 2017-2018 season has 61k deaths out of 21 million health care visits, or nearly .3%

[faftorial]

If the media sounds alarmist then so be it, better safe than sorry.

[grunthy]

If the media sounds alarmist then so be it, better safe than sorry.

It’s better to be safe than sorry, but inducing a panic usually has the opposite affect of what you are trying to achieve.

[dodint]

If the media sounds alarmist then so be it, better safe than sorry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

[Gaucho]

If the media sounds alarmist then so be it, better safe than sorry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

[faftorial]

If the media sounds alarmist then so be it, better safe than sorry.

It’s better to be safe than sorry, but inducing a panic usually has the opposite affect of what you are trying to achieve.

Who is inducing a panic. Are you panicked?