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Postby NAN » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:38 am

Did operation warp speed help fund this?

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Postby AuthorTony » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:39 am

Did operation warp speed help fund this?
Yes.
https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna ... ed-2020-11

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Postby meow » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:48 am

Do you mean Operation Ludicrous Speed?

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Postby nocera » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:53 am

It's the Moderna vaccine... They've gone to plaid.

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Postby shoeshine boy » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:54 am



We have tremendous freezers. The best freezers you've ever seen maybe in the history of freezers. And we're going to be announcing our plan very soon.
show of hands: who else read this in Trump's voice? :lol:

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:58 am

Did operation warp speed help fund this?
Sure did... thus why Trump is congratulating himself so hard.

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Postby MR25 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:01 pm



Seriously **** these people

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Postby PFiDC » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:17 pm

Looks like most of us will be able to get a vaccine by April, if one wants it.
Most of us? Meaning roughly 175 million Americans? By April?

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Postby CBear3 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:25 pm

Two vaccine companies producing 25 million batches a month, so we can vaccinate 50 million people a month. Let's play safe and say starting 1/1/21. That's 150 million by April. Now, I'm not sure if they're both two dose vaccines, and if the manufacturing quantities are in doses or patients treated, but it sure seems that by Memorial Day we'll be back in the daylight.

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Postby grunthy » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:26 pm

Looks like most of us will be able to get a vaccine by April, if one wants it.
Most of us? Meaning roughly 175 million Americans? By April?
I believe so. Just with these two vaccines it will be close to that. If AstraZeneca/Oxford also is this successful then I would say it is a certainty.

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Postby meow » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:27 pm

Plus 30 days for the booster

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Postby nocera » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:28 pm

This is probably going to sound very dumb, but that 150 million would go exclusively to Americans?

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Postby grunthy » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:29 pm

Two vaccine companies producing 25 million batches a month, so we can vaccinate 50 million people a month. Let's play safe and say starting 1/1/21. That's 150 million by April. Now, I'm not sure if they're both two dose vaccines, and if the manufacturing quantities are in doses or patients treated, but it sure seems that by Memorial Day we'll be back in the daylight.
Pfizer says they will be able to produce up to 1.3 billions doses or 650 million people can get vaccinated next year. Moderna says up to 1 billion doses or 500 million vaccinated.

Most of Moderna I think is allotted to the USA. Up to 500 million doses of Pfizer is allotted to the USA.

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Postby PFiDC » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:07 pm

Two vaccine companies producing 25 million batches a month, so we can vaccinate 50 million people a month. Let's play safe and say starting 1/1/21. That's 150 million by April. Now, I'm not sure if they're both two dose vaccines, and if the manufacturing quantities are in doses or patients treated, but it sure seems that by Memorial Day we'll be back in the daylight.
Pfizer says they will be able to produce up to 1.3 billions doses or 650 million people can get vaccinated next year. Moderna says up to 1 billion doses or 500 million vaccinated.

Most of Moderna I think is allotted to the USA. Up to 500 million doses of Pfizer is allotted to the USA.
Excellent news! As soon as Fauci takes it, I'll take it.

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Postby PFiDC » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:08 pm

Also this all depends on distribution which I'm not confident will go very well. I hope it does. It would be nice if the 2 teams could work together now tk ensure a smooth transition mid January.

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Postby CBear3 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:15 pm

Also this all depends on distribution which I'm not confident will go very well. I hope it does. It would be nice if the 2 teams could work together now tk ensure a smooth transition mid January.
Hopefully the fed gov is working on this (there's previously been talk about the armed forces handling logistics). Most of that would be done behind closed doors and is not subject to bluster, politic posturing, or defending one's "brand."

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Postby PFiDC » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:17 pm

I'm hopeful and trying to be as optimistic as possible.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:28 pm

Yeah... I'm hoping the understanding is that this is above political pandering, but then again there's very little that is these days.

Speaking of which, the timing of all this is unfortunate. The speed that these things have come out are incredible and I'm glad there's light at the end of the tunnel, but the timing of just after the election makes for more fuel to the conspiracy theory lunatics.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:29 pm

Everyone remain calm. If you get it, you don't have to worry about who doesn't.
That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.
This is correct.
At 94% effective, most would not have to worry about it.
That’s still not how it works. A 94% effective rate is every time you come in contact with the virus. Every time someone with Covid sneezes into your butthole, you roll a 100 sided dice to see if you get it. 94 times you don’t. 6 times you do.

With that rate, I give ulf three days until he catches it.
well if that's the case give me the under

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Postby grunthy » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:33 pm

Yeah... I'm hoping the understanding is that this is above political pandering, but then again there's very little that is these days.

Speaking of which, the timing of all this is unfortunate. The speed that these things have come out are incredible and I'm glad there's light at the end of the tunnel, but the timing of just after the election makes for more fuel to the conspiracy theory lunatics.
I don't care about the dumbasses that think it is being announced after the election to hurt Trump. I am just glad this ****, relatively speaking, is almost done.

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Postby MWB » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:36 pm

I’m cautiously optimistic, but seems like we’re just ending the third quarter, with plenty of game time left.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:37 pm

A lot of people are going to die this winter... even with improved treatments and knowledge. Obviously much less than that first wave because we've learned so much more, but still.

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Postby King Colby » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:00 pm

I'm with CBear. Seems like this is a pretty easy one to give to the National Guard to handle. Shouldn't even matter if an overripe banana is president.

Perfect example of why the federal government exists.

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Postby nocera » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:07 pm

New restrictions in Philly. I'll spoil the full list below, but basically high schools & colleges must be remote learning only. Indoor dining is prohibited. Theaters, museums, libraries, casino, youth sports, & gyms are also closed. I fully expect similar restrictions to come to Allegheny County soon as our weekend numbers were worse than the Philly area counties.

https://www.phila.gov/2020-11-16-philad ... -19-cases/
The following businesses and activities are not allowed:
High schools and colleges must move to online instruction only, with the exception of clinical instruction for students in health sciences.
Indoor dining at restaurants and other food service businesses. (Takeout, delivery and outdoor dining may continue. Additional restrictions on outdoor dining are detailed below.)
Theaters and other performance spaces.
Bowling alleys, arcades and game spaces.
Museums.
Libraries. (Those serving as Access Centers may continue to operate. Curbside dropoff and pickup services for patrons are allowed.)
Casinos.
Recreational activities and sports for youth, community groups, and schools.
Gyms and indoor exercise classes. (Exercise groups and classes may continue outdoors.)
Senior day services (senior centers and adult day care centers) remain closed.

Changes to events and gatherings include:
All indoor gatherings and events involving people from more than one household are prohibited, in public or private spaces. This includes private events such as weddings and showers, listed as “celebrations” in previous guidance, as well as funerals.
Religious institutions are permitted to have people indoors, but density must be capped at 5 people per 1,000 sq. ft. or 5 percent of maximum occupancy.
Outdoor gatherings and events are limited to 10 percent of maximum capacity of the space, or 10 people per 1,000 sq. ft. for venues with an undefined maximum capacity—not to exceed 2,000 people in any outdoor space. In addition, all individuals at outdoor gatherings must wear masks at all times, and—to reinforce mask use—neither food nor beverages may be served.

Additional changes to capacity limits and other precautions will be instituted for businesses and activities that are able to continue:
Restaurants offering outdoor dining must reduce table sizes to four people. Guidance will make it clear that groups dining outdoors should be household members only, because mixing different households promotes community-wide spread.
Retail stores and indoor malls may continue to operate, but with a maximum density of 5 people per 1,000 square feet. The City will require these stores to enforce mask use and distancing of customers and staff.
Offices are permitted to have only employees that cannot work remotely.
Barbershops, beauty salons, and similar personal services may continue to operate, but all staff and customers must wear masks at all times. These businesses cannot work on the face or otherwise perform services that require that masks be removed.
College sports may continue if their plan is specifically approved by the Department of Public Health and no spectators are present.
Zoos may operate only their outdoor areas.
Parks, trails, playgrounds, and athletic fields will remain open for individual use only. (No group sports.)

The following businesses and activities can continue to function under current guidance from the Department of Public Health:
Grocery stores and farmers markets.
Pharmacies.
Banks.
Construction.
Landscaping.
Home-based construction, renovation, repair, and maintenance.
Manufacturing and warehousing.
Real estate operations and transactions.
Health care services.
Home-based support services, such as home health services.
Taxis and ride share services.
Transit.
Outdoor mobile food carts and trucks.
Hotels.
Drive-in events in which people remain in their vehicles.
Child day care and early learning centers.
Elementary and middle schools.
Access Centers for children in elementary and middle school.

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