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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:01 am

No doubt about it

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:17 am

I know Endy is listed at 6', 200 lbs., but he certainly seems thinner than that and has an unusual build for a catcher. I'm used to short, stocky guys or giants like Stallings, who even then was an outlier for the position.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:11 am

Davis noticed Endy was not getting to his load like he usually does, so they worked on it in batting practice. The result was his first home run. Maybe Haines isn't even needed?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:23 am

If by Haines you mean Hayes, then yes, not needed.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:25 am

That goes without saying, but I was talking about the "hitting" coach Andy Haines. :lol:

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:18 pm

**** that guy too

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:37 pm

I'm not ready for the return of Mid Keller. :(

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:34 pm

I'm not ready for the return of Mid Keller. :(
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Postby LeopardLetang » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:26 pm

Last 30 days Alika Williams: .349avg 1.058ops 22g 6hr

Chandler last 2 starts. 10.2ip 4h 0r 4bb 14k

De Los Santos 2-3 2b,Hr 5 game hitting streak up to .698ops after a terrible start

Johnson 2-4. Last 30 days .917ops

Sightler, 23yo in bradenton last 30 days 33 for 64 .534avg 1.454

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Postby LeopardLetang » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:32 pm

Law's top 60

60. Bubba Chandler, RHP Pittsburgh Pirates
Previous ranking: Unranked

I saw Chandler on Tuesday night in Wilmington, and the pure stuff was as impressive as anyone I've seen this year. The 2021 draftee was 94-98 mph for almost five innings with a plus-plus changeup and two very sharp breaking balls, although his command was well below average - almost all on the fastball, with which he misses up almost too consistently, as he's trying to locate in the top third of the zone and seems to overcompensate for the big induced vertical on the pitch. He's a ridiculously good athlete who looks like he's expending relatively little effort for that kind of arm speed, and all four of his pitches have a lot of movement. I like both him and fellow Pirate prospect Anthony Solometo, a lefty who's been in Double A for a month, but think Chandler has more long-term upside with the more complete arsenal.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:02 am

New DSL player crush

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... rez-014ang

Key features include (1) amazing name (2) not a "physically developed" aka big fat guy like Mojica

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:24 am

Last 30 days Alika Williams: .349avg 1.058ops 22g 6hr

Chandler last 2 starts. 10.2ip 4h 0r 4bb 14k

De Los Santos 2-3 2b,Hr 5 game hitting streak up to .698ops after a terrible start

Johnson 2-4. Last 30 days .917ops

Sightler, 23yo in bradenton last 30 days 33 for 64 .534avg 1.454
Maybe Alika has some special combo of the Tampa approach to hitting, with whatever it is the Pirates are trying to teach. A special blend that results in swinging at strikes and hitting off speed pitches

That write up is a pretty good explainer on why they spent all that money to draft Chandler, effortlessly throwing mid-90's. Good to know he could still very well break out, and if/when he does, it's probably a fast track through the upper levels.

As for the Marauders, Sightler is 23, skip GBO, throw his ass in Altoona to see if he's worth a damn.

Termarr is a stud. Just noticed though that he has more HR than 2B. Basically just knowing that he was praised for his hit at the draft, and that he's a pretty small guy it stands out to me. Couple that with the high K and BB rates, not sure he's got the right approach right now. Basically acting like a power hitter.

Love to see that from DLS, he was clearly over matched in is first couple weeks at Bradenton, adjusting this fast to the higher level seems impressive to me.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:37 am


Termarr is a stud. Just noticed though that he has more HR than 2B. Basically just knowing that he was praised for his hit at the draft, and that he's a pretty small guy it stands out to me. Couple that with the high K and BB rates, not sure he's got the right approach right now. Basically acting like a power hitter.
Good catch on TJ. I believe Gonzales had a similar profile when drafted. Very good hitter with not much promise to have power. Do the Pirates preach power too much at the lower levels instead of just letting guys hit?

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:49 am

Not really sure, think this is more of a Termarr thing.

Watch one his hr clips, looks like he is swinging out of his shoes

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Postby LeopardLetang » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:23 am

Good point about his swinging out of his shoes. I doubt they're teaching that. But nick g is a great comparison. Both are very strange to have such high k rates. It's hard not to think their approaches were guided and enforced. Wait for the right pitch and hammer it. Leads to high bb and k rates I would think along with extra power.

I should have showed TJs 15 day instead of 30 day. 35ab .400/522/800 9bb 6k. He's improved his bb/k a lot each month and in July it's 19/13

Yeah Sightler is just a fun fact for now. And DLS still 18 until February. I keep forgetting he's 6'1 which is nice. Fair amount of very young success stories in bradenton

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Postby King Colby » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:22 pm

Pirates listening on Bednar.

Unpopular opinion, I probably cash out on that asset, his value will never be higher.

Even though I basically said before Id keep everyone unless they're blocking somebody. I just don't see a point in trading guys like cutch, Santana, choi, hill for some mid-level prayer of a prospect.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:20 pm

Gmbc has given zero f's about the bullpen in his tenure. I give him credit for acquiring Bednar, but the bullpen stinks with or without him. I'm sure at some point gmbc will have no choice but to try and have 7 or so real relievers. Until then, theres no need for a good closer, even if that good closer happens to be a iron city drinking yinzer

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Postby faftorial » Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:23 pm

If they do trade him they better get something good.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:40 pm

Gmbc has given zero f's about the bullpen in his tenure. I give him credit for acquiring Bednar, but the bullpen stinks with or without him. I'm sure at some point gmbc will have no choice but to try and have 7 or so real relievers. Until then, theres no need for a good closer, even if that good closer happens to be a iron city drinking yinzer
He had an epiphany and just drafted his entire 2028 bullpen this year.

Regarding Bednar, it sucks but if they get a king's ransom in return, you have to deal him. I'm not talking about lottery tickets either, I'm talking what FGMNH was trying to get for the child molester before the truth came out about him.

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Postby King Colby » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:22 pm

That's what I'm thinking. A bigtime package similar to that. Otherwise don't bother

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:51 pm

Pirates listening to offers for Mitch as well, per Jon Heyman.

He says it's a low probability to deal either, but if they go... yikes. What a franchise.

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Postby King Colby » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm

You can't trade starting pitching when you have none

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Postby Ad@m » Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:34 am

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:47 am

Marcano hurt, hopefully they call up that Williams guy

Endy showing us why Davis is playing the of

The reliever with the weird name is doing good, BC’s first draft (2020) starting to contribute

Not sure what to make of that Keller news, guessing cause it’s a “sellers market” they want to at least see what the action is? But even if, the return have to be major league ready starter that’s younger and not as good as Keller. And then if you get that, the prospect(s) would just be low level high-risk guys.

But this is the story of the modern baseball era, two options for major league capable players, pay them or trade them. The pirates are always going to explore box #2.

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