Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
-
- Posts: 18197
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
I don't like Crosby quarterbacking either, though i've never seen it. Paul Martin is good at QBing. Problem is he doesn't have a great shot.
-
- Posts: 18197
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
Second problem is you need Martin for other minutes
-
- Posts: 373
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:56 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
Letang has 2 goals and 22 assists on the PP. Niklas Kronwall and 3 goals and 19 assists. Would you consider Kronwall even close to having the offensive skills that Letang has? They have nearly identical PP production.RHS d-man with excellent offensive skills...that's why he's on the PP. Whether he's utilized correctly is not a matter of player skill...
-
- Posts: 42711
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:58 pm
- Location: More of a before-rehab friend...
- Contact:
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
Right, that's a utilization question more than a skills question. The highest skill level doesn't win the power play, right? Or else we would still have a 40% power play, right? Kronwall is pretty talented (more so offensively, than defensively, that's for sure) in his own right and I get your point...but it's misplaced...
-
- Posts: 30627
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:53 am
- Location: I have four degrees and am a moron. Don’t let that fool you
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
I've never thought Letang's power play problems have been from player utilization or skill. It's about about his decision-making. His hands and legs are great for a pp unit. His head is not.
-
- Posts: 373
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:56 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
How would you utilize Letang so that he maximizes his potential? If its a question of utilization then you have to move him from the point to the boards opposite Crosby.Right, that's a utilization question more than a skills question. The highest skill level doesn't win the power play, right? Or else we would still have a 40% power play, right? Kronwall is pretty talented (more so offensively, than defensively, that's for sure) in his own right and I get your point...but it's misplaced...
For me this team needs a point man who can shoot the puck and Letang really doesnt offer that. The way the players are positioned in the current setup doesnt maximize everyones potential, I can agree with you on that.
-
- Posts: 42711
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:58 pm
- Location: More of a before-rehab friend...
- Contact:
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
Crosby should roam below the top of the circles on each side and quarterback the power play from low to high, instead of high to low. Let Letang use his shot and his vision to dictate things on the left, if you want to use Ehrhoff or Pouliot on the right, Hornqvist in the low slot and then maybe Malkin out-high on the point or in the high-slot and he'll rotate down when the second unit comes out if necessary...
The idea is to work pucks back into the middle and get quick shots from high quality areas...
The idea is to work pucks back into the middle and get quick shots from high quality areas...
-
- Posts: 373
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:56 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
I agree. You have Malkin control the point to the circle, Crosby circle to circle and behind the net. Have Letang on the left boards / Hornqvist in the slot and down low. Use Ehrhoff / Pouliot on the Point.Crosby should roam below the top of the circles on each side and quarterback the power play from low to high, instead of high to low. Let Letang use his shot and his vision to dictate things on the left, if you want to use Ehrhoff or Pouliot on the right, Hornqvist in the low slot and then maybe Malkin out-high on the point or in the high-slot and he'll rotate down when the second unit comes out if necessary...
The idea is to work pucks back into the middle and get quick shots from high quality areas...
But the team interest in doing that so we will continue to underachieve.
-
- Posts: 42711
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:58 pm
- Location: More of a before-rehab friend...
- Contact:
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
Well, that's the thing about power plays...they're one of the easiest things to video scout and shut off...so while some teams make it harder on themselves than others, there's no perfect formula...you always have to be adapting...in that adaptation process, things will not work along the way...things will not be executed correctly along the way...things will be unlucky...whatever, whatever...
-
- Posts: 373
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:56 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
I hear you, but I get the sense right now that we are hindering ourselves more than the opponent is. We dont have a shooter, we pass the puck around the box. We try a wild pass through the box or try to find Kunitz inside their box but with it being so tight you just can't get a shot off. This PP wont shoot and has no imagination / ability to adapt to what the other team is doing.Well, that's the thing about power plays...they're one of the easiest things to video scout and shut off...so while some teams make it harder on themselves than others, there's no perfect formula...you always have to be adapting...in that adaptation process, things will not work along the way...things will not be executed correctly along the way...things will be unlucky...whatever, whatever...
I dont know if you pin this on the players or coaching because I'm not at practice or in the room. But someone is certainly to blame for the lack of consistency.
-
- Posts: 19041
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:37 pm
- Location: people notice my car when its shined up
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
crosby is. and it's not a good thing.In all honesty, besides the absurd anti-Letang bias, Letang shouldn't be the quarterback of the power play...Crosby should...
...at least not with him stationed on the right wall. it's a horrid setup.
-
- Posts: 42711
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:58 pm
- Location: More of a before-rehab friend...
- Contact:
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
Yeah, the setup is not ideal, I agree.
-
- Posts: 472
- Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:11 pm
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
i always thought geno should be the QB on the PP, he is a dual threat to shoot to shoot or pass. Crosby is way to often pass first
-
- Posts: 42711
- Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:58 pm
- Location: More of a before-rehab friend...
- Contact:
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
That's fair, but Crosby is also the best deflector and close-in/quick-rebound finisher maybe in the whole NHL...so him hanging out near the net and distributing also provides that shooting (not cannon firing like Ehrhoff or Malkin) prowess and goals. Malkin out high provides a distributor and scoring threat from distance.i always thought geno should be the QB on the PP, he is a dual threat to shoot to shoot or pass. Crosby is way to often pass first
-
- Posts: 16580
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:19 pm
- Location: Lifelong Alabama Football Fan
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
I don't what is thisFrom a defensive zone coverage standpoint I think he is very replaceable. Given his lack of production on the PP too. I think with him out our team will have no choice but to simplify a bit. IMO that isnt a bad thing.I don't think that is very likely, since Letang isn't expendable.I really hope that the current D plays well and shows management how expendable Letang really is.I was definitely impressed with the cajones they showed during that pk. I'm concerned about their long term prospects if Letang misses significant time, but I do like the fight they are showing.
Meow's Morning Meeting - 3-29-15 vs. SJ
That's fair, but Crosby is also the best deflector and close-in/quick-rebound finisher maybe in the whole NHL...so him hanging out near the net and distributing also provides that shooting (not cannon firing like Ehrhoff or Malkin) prowess and goals. Malkin out high provides a distributor and scoring threat from distance.i always thought geno should be the QB on the PP, he is a dual threat to shoot to shoot or pass. Crosby is way to often pass first
Soooooo true of Sid on the PP. When he's on the half or up high, I really don't see much added value of his distribution. The Sid-to-Whitney-backdoor-twss-lol days are gone and his 50-foot cross-ice backhanders to the opposite point yield nothing special. Any one of 6 others can fill that roll; perimeter maintenance isn't that difficult.
In short, his skills are miscast on the PP.
I like Sid blasting from 10 feet away to finish off a chaotic situation where the d and goalie aren't nearly as set as they are when he's scoping out moves like a billiard player like now.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 142 guests