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Trade Deadline 2021

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:53 am
by meow
OJ

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:53 am
by meow
Wait. No. POJ

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:53 am
by meow
meow’d

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:23 am
by MR25
My only concern with Carter is his legs. Hoping this isn't another Marleau situation where his center has to try and drag him down the ice.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 am
by Dickie Dunn
So Carter is still playing on a contract he signed with the Flyers, but never actually got a paycheck from the Flyers during the contract. Towards the end of his 3 year, $15MM extension he signed an 11 year, $58MM extension on 11/10/10. On 6/23/11 he was traded to the BJs and then was traded again on 2/23/12 to LA for Jack Johnson. Weirdness. Also, 11 year contracts are dumb.

I have no real issues with the move beyond there being another year on the contract. I'd prefer to not be on the hook for $2.6MM for potential dead weight while continuing to navigate the flat cap world.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:42 am
by King Colby
I doubt he would be dead weight next year. And that's the going rate for a third liner with a pulse.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:42 am
by NTP66
If he puts up points, I won't care about a sub-$3m salary.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:49 am
by Dickie Dunn
Side note, the Kings salary cap breakdown is amazing. Dion Phaneuf buyout, Jeff Carter retained salary, $6.25MM this season for terminating Kovalchuk's contract, and termination fees for Mike Richards until 2031-32.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:51 am
by King Colby
Here are guys with a similar cap hit (all higher).

Marcus Foligno
Colton Sissons
Matt Calvert
Danton Heinen
Richard Panik
Carl Hagelin

I think we're ok.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:51 am
by Kane
Carter still a coke head?

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 am
by meow
Hopefully. He played his best hockey when he was blazed out of his mind on coke.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:54 am
by Kane
Solid point.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:55 am
by Dickie Dunn
Here are guys with a similar cap hit (all higher).

Marcus Foligno
Colton Sissons
Matt Calvert
Danton Heinen
Richard Panik
Carl Hagelin

I think we're ok.
That’s a good point. Sceiviour’s $1.2MM will be off the books. Same for the $2MM Jugs buyout. There will be some wiggle room for things.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:55 am
by nocera
Source of the post I have no real issues with the move beyond there being another year on the contract. I'd prefer to not be on the hook for $2.6MM for potential dead weight while continuing to navigate the flat cap world.
I have zero idea how this contract stuff works, but according to Reddit comments (historically 100% factual and trustworthy), rumor is Carter is going to retire after this year. If that happens, the Pens would actually have a a positive cap recapture benefit with LA and Columbus paying recapture penalties.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comment ... s_for_nhl/

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:56 am
by meow

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:58 am
by Dickie Dunn
Wasn’t Carter banging Hartnell’s wife as well? Wonder what she’s up to.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:01 am
by Dickie Dunn
How do the BJs have anything to do with this? They had him for 8 months and didn’t retain salary when they traded him to LA. This is suddenly NFL salary cap level nonsense.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:03 am
by meow
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:09 am
by shmenguin
I went to the same local bar in south Jersey like every Friday of my mid 20’s.

Carter and Richards had a long running thing with a couple of bar tenders there. The hookups were brokered by Richards’ coke dealer. Carter’s girl was convinced they had a future together. I haven’t checked his Wikipedia but I don’t think they made it work.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:11 am
by Dickie Dunn
I got it now. Recapture penalty because the contract is front loaded. Cap hit of $5.3MM but last three years have actual pay of $3MM, $2MM, and $2MM. Pens get rewarded for eating more in cap space than what the contract is actual paying, all teams he played for get penalized for benefiting from the cap hit shenanigans.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:14 am
by NTP66
Those were some chunky contracts handed out by the Flyers back then. Pronger included. Remember when they tried to sign Shea Weber for like 20 years? :lol:

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 am
by willeyeam
if he retires and we get extra cap room that's a great move

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:32 am
by Dickie Dunn
Those were some chunky contracts handed out by the Flyers back then. Pronger included. Remember when they tried to sign Shea Weber for like 20 years? :lol:
Some crazy days. Still can’t believe Nashville matched that asinine offer sheet and with the recapture changes they are **** if he retires early.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:33 am
by King Colby
That was a weird time. 14 year deal for weber. I'm glad they added the 8 year maximum.

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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:43 am
by faftorial
Those were some chunky contracts handed out by the Flyers back then. Pronger included. Remember when they tried to sign Shea Weber for like 20 years? :lol:
Was that during the Holmgren era?