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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:42 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Only New Jersey, Arizona, Vancouver, and Colorado weren't within 20 points of a playoff spot this season.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:44 pm
by dodint
Begs the question. More points next year, Arizona or Vegas? Average game attendance, Arizona or Vegas?

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:47 pm
by willeyeam
Vegas and Vegas. Vegas has the line at Vegas -120

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:59 pm
by TheHammer24
Agree to disagree then. Pens have 5 RFAs. They sign a lot of RFAs after the season. Doesn't seem necessarily true that they are at a standstill.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:00 pm
by grunthy
Begs the question. More points next year, Arizona or Vegas? Average game attendance, Arizona or Vegas?

I'd be willing to bet vegas gets close to selling out a lot.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:32 pm
by meow
I'd be really happy if Hagelin got picked. I like him, no issue there. But his game seems to be speed based and he's 28. What's left when the speed goes? Hair?
He could keep that speed for 10 years. Hell, he could lose a step and still be one of the fastest guys in the league.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:34 pm
by dodint
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:37 pm
by the wicked child
Hagelin has what, 2 years left? Not overly concerned about him losing his speed during that time. If he was signed really long term for... some reason, maybe.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:39 pm
by mikey
Source of the post I strongly feel that if the Pens wanted to pay Schultz what "he" is asking for then he would already be signed.
You might not be wrong. But I don't subscribe to this.

A) RFAs are last on the to-do list for an offseason
B) Vegas can only take 10 non-contracted players. Schultz being an RFA would eat up one of those spots, which is very slight dissuadement (?)
C) Some teams don't negotiate these kind of "major" deals during the season to avoid the distraction...

So I don't read too much into it...

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:44 pm
by Troy Loney
When do we find out who they're exposing?

I think they should do the 8 total skaters and a goalie, as opposed to the 7-3-1.
Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist, Letang, Schultz, Maata, Dumolin & Murray.

Here's how I would rank LV's Penguin's choice - Schultz, Dumolin, Fleury, Cole, Rust Schultz. I think ideally you want LV to select Fleury, if you're having to dangle Schultz or Dumo, LV is going to jump on one of them. But if they're picking between Fleury, Cole and Rust, they might go for the former #1 overall pick and starting goalie.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:47 pm
by dodint
Source of the post When do we find out who they're exposing?
18th.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:18 pm
by count2infinity
Only New Jersey, Arizona, Vancouver, and Colorado weren't within 20 points of a playoff spot this season.
Pens had 16 wins in the playoffs... Colorado had 22 wins all season. That's insane to me.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:08 pm
by TheHammer24
Only New Jersey, Arizona, Vancouver, and Colorado weren't within 20 points of a playoff spot this season.
Pens had 16 wins in the playoffs... Colorado had 22 wins all season. That's insane to me.
Especially considering they were pretty good a few years ago.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:57 am
by Troy Loney
Just skimmed a bleacher report article on what players look to be available from other teams. Seems like there are a couple of teams that are in worse situations than the Penguins. Minnesota, Nashville, ANA, NYR and NYI all look like they will have to expose a strong asset.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:05 pm
by mikey
Half the league is in a worse situation than us probably...

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:19 pm
by Jim
Just skimmed a bleacher report article on what players look to be available from other teams. Seems like there are a couple of teams that are in worse situations than the Penguins. Minnesota, Nashville, ANA, NYR and NYI all look like they will have to expose a strong asset.
The Pens are not in a bad situation at all. Especially considering that they don't have to protect Guentzel and Sheary, two NHL level players for free. The ED is set up so that Vegas can pick a "decent" player from every team, so the standard for each team is to expect to lose a decent player. The standard is NOT for a team to lose someone that they don't care about.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:25 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Just skimmed a bleacher report article on what players look to be available from other teams. Seems like there are a couple of teams that are in worse situations than the Penguins. Minnesota, Nashville, ANA, NYR and NYI all look like they will have to expose a strong asset.
The Pens are not in a bad situation at all. Especially considering that they don't have to protect Guentzel and Sheary, two NHL level players for free. The ED is set up so that Vegas can pick a "decent" player from every team, so the standard for each team is to expect to lose a decent player. The standard is NOT for a team to lose someone that they don't care about.
Which was the problem in every previous expansion draft.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:31 pm
by MR25
I still expect a couple of deals to be made so that some of those decent players don't get picked (Spurgeon/Scandella from Minny cone to mind).

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:32 pm
by mikey
There were will be a lot of maneuvering, yes...far from a finished product...

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:11 pm
by llipgh2
Source of the post When do we find out who they're exposing?
18th.
Happy Father's Day, guys! BTW, you're exposed. :lol:

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:18 pm
by meow
I'll be exposing myse....you know what, nevermind.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:42 pm
by MR25
Whatever you do in your own home is up to you. Judgment-free zone.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:12 pm
by FistOfCaufield
I still expect a couple of deals to be made so that some of those decent players don't get picked (Spurgeon/Scandella from Minny cone to mind).
I think even better deals will be made for Vegas to take on a few bad contracts.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:14 pm
by Troy Loney
After reading the article on Fleury this afternoon, it seems like Fleury to Vegas is a done deal.

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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:19 pm
by Gaucho
Didn't either Foley or McPhee say as much a few months ago?