mikey's Thread of Penguin Randomness

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:38 pm

I still really want one but with all the stuff I'm doing this spring I just don't want to drop $350 on a shirt I'll wear once a year, maybe. Maybe I'll drop in to Murrysville one afternoon and impulse it.

You're not welcome here

Postby **VoiceOfTheFan** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:47 am

You're not welcome here

Postby **Silentom** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:49 am

Nice to see the Pens go from hemorrhaging goals to only allowing three in three games.

Postby **relantel** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:53 am

8 points to go. Might possibly get this week... would be nice to see him get there before the all star break.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:02 am

Nice to see the Pens go from hemorrhaging goals to only allowing three in three games.

A good coach knows when to reel it back in when he starts losing control, this eluded Bylsma.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:18 am

shmeguin mentioned it in the GDT, but how the hell much is Sheary going to cost to re-sign? Going into the season I was worried about how much it would cost to re-sign Dumo. Mediocrity and injury has tempered those fears, but even if Sheary slows a bit (which is hard to do as long as he's on a line with Sid), were likely looking at a 25 goal, 55 point season.

Postby **Gaucho** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:22 am

3 years, $10 million.

Postby **relantel** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:34 am

Re-sign is easy. But he would be exposed to LV on the expansion draft I would think. (this being his 3rd pro season)

Postby **MR25** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:38 am

I thought I read that he was exempt.

Postby **Staggy** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:40 am

Sheary's tied for most even strength points at LW with Saad. Ahead of Ovechkin and Benn, just to name a couple. Crazy.

Postby **Gaucho** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:45 am

Re-sign is easy. But he would be exposed to LV on the expansion draft I would think. (this being his 3rd pro season)

You don't re-sign him ahead of the draft, of course.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:15 am

He's exempt. 2nd pro season, wasn't under in NHL deal three seasons ago.

Postby **relantel** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:19 am

He's exempt. 2nd pro season, wasn't under in NHL deal three seasons ago.

So Pro season doesn't mean pro season then? played full season at WBS in 14-15. Seems very strange and quirky these rules then!

Postby **Jim** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:27 am

Sheary's tied for most even strength points at LW with Saad. Ahead of Ovechkin and Benn, just to name a couple. Crazy.

Dupuis lead the league in even strength goals over something like a 4 year span

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:38 am

He's exempt. 2nd pro season, wasn't under in NHL deal three seasons ago.
So Pro season doesn't mean pro season then? played full season at WBS in 14-15. Seems very strange and quirky these rules then!

"Pro" historically represents "playing pro under an NHL contract" for the relatively small number of relevant players in the world that play in the AHL and don't have an NHL contract, I doubt this was worth the NHL putting forth. Sheary's AHL-only deal saves us big time...

Postby **columbia** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:40 am

Was it Shero or GMJR, who signed Sheary?

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:45 am

We have 8 GMs, and Sheary first came over out of college on an ATO, then got an AHL deal. So if I had to guess, and hopefully someone will correct me (or ask Bombulie, who would probably know), I'm thinking this was a Botterill -> Rutherford production...

Even though, small American NCAA forward has Shero's prints all over it, I'm not so sure about this one...this one actually worked out...

Postby **dodint** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:51 am

Eight-headed monster.

Postby **columbia** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:53 am

It seems that he played for WBS in Spring of 2014...so, yes, a Shero Special.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:00 pm

Well, that's where I'm not sure. For AHL only moves, you don't always get the NHL GM involved...particularly with ATOs. In most organizations, the assistant GM cuts his teeth a little by being the GM of the AHL club. My understanding, is that Botterill was running the AHL team at this time. There are AHL trades that take place, there are signings that are two-way (AHL/ECHL), there are these 25-game ATOs that can be offered out, they have their own resources because an NHL team doesn't fill that entire roster, particularly now where the NHL:AHL ratio has reached parity for the first time in some time (ever?).

So, I almost wonder...and I don't mean to go out on this limb to discredit Shero - as I think he did really great work here - but Botterill got him on an AHL ATO, signed him to an AHL deal and then Rutherford got him under an NHL contract (with Botterill having a major say being the "associate GM" under Rutherford, but not Shero, IIRC). It's very plausible that that was done with little input from Shero, as it happens often in the AHL, particularly because of wonky scheduling and travel issues...plus, looser roster rules with regard to tryout players playing and how long they can play for...

I'll take a breath now...

Postby **columbia** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:01 pm

Just trying to give Shero some credit.

Postby **Gaucho** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:02 pm

Daniel Sprong started the season with 4 G, 5A in 8 GMS. Sounds good, but he should probably dominate at that level anyway.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:02 pm

Heh, just making conversation on a board that could use it...unfortunately, I only make conversation that's interesting to me...

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:04 pm

Daniel Sprong started the season with 4 G, 5A in 8 GMS. Sounds good, but he should probably dominate at that level anyway.

Yes. And Charlottetown is 6-1-1 in those games, including winning their last 5. Sprong should star at this level.

Postby **columbia** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:04 pm

hah...i appreciated the autopsy on it.