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Postby willeyeam » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:06 am

So outside of doing something illegal we're all good?

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Postby Beveridge » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:28 am

Remove stealing and leadoffs, remove catcher, remove umpire, put in AI for strikes and balls...

Pitcher throws whatever the hell he wants without any signs and we're good until mind reading is possible.

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Postby LeopardLetang » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:08 am

I can’t believe people give a **** about sign stealing. Part of the game I say. Get better signs or rotating sets.
it's one thing to steal signs when you're on 2nd base - part of the game. You have to worry about A) getting picked off while you do it B) figuring out the actual signs because when you're on 2nd they aren't just flashing a 2 for a curveball, and C) figuring out a way to let the batter know what's coming without them catching on because lastly D) you have to be okay knowing you may get one in the earhole.

The current situation has some jabrony looking at an HD TV with a camera pointed at the catcher from center field and banging on a trash can the instant he flashes a sign. So respectfully, gtfoh with that bush league BS
lol i haven't followed this at all and was assuming he was referring to stealing the the third base coach's signs not the catcher's. is this the main thing that got houston into trouble?

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Postby MWB » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:21 am

They were using video replay room and the information from there to pick up the signs from the catcher. That info was then decoded and relayed to the hitter.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:45 am

Remove stealing and leadoffs, remove catcher, remove umpire, put in AI for strikes and balls...

Pitcher throws whatever the hell he wants without any signs and we're good until mind reading is possible.
NHL wheel of discipline is reimagined to a steal wheel and spun anytime a player wants to steal. They can be safe, out, caught in a rundown (respin), overrun the base, error on the defense running keeps going and the wheel respins, out of baseline, out of baseline but called safe (respin to see if manager argues with ump(spin again to see if manager kicks dirt(spin against to see if spittle gets on ump( spin again to see if manager physically steals the base and throws it( spin again to see if ejection occurs( spin again to see if manager hurls bats onto field when leaving))))))

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Postby Beveridge » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:57 am

You had me at NHL wheel of discipline.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 pm

Newly hired Carlos Beltran fired by the Mets due to his involvement with the sign stealing shenanigans. Apparently the involved players receive no punishment if they're still players but if they've moved on to coaching positions MLB is considering them fair game.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:35 pm

Best take I saw on that was, they should just make Bonilla the manager.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:57 pm

People are poking around the possibility that Altuve was wearing a buzzer when he hit the ACLS clinching HR. I'd say, I'd watch that clip if you can and tell me he wasn't sitting on a slider. That combined with him clutching his jersey at the celebration and apparently yelling "don't rip my jersey".

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Postby NailedPenguin » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:01 pm


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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:02 pm

Apparently that idea originated in a tweet from someone claiming to be Beltran's niece, but actually is not related to the family.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:06 pm

Trevor Bauer said he'd heard the same from other people.

It's obviously circumstantial, but just watch the hit. He is without a doubt sitting on an offspeed pitch, you can't wait like that against Chapman unless you are sitting on offspeed. So, it's either he guessed right, or he knew.

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Postby LITT » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:56 pm

maybe he had to ****

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Postby CBear3 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:58 pm

Trevor Bauer said he'd heard the same from other people.

It's obviously circumstantial, but just watch the hit. He is without a doubt sitting on an offspeed pitch, you can't wait like that against Chapman unless you are sitting on offspeed. So, it's either he guessed right, or he knew.
That's hitting in a nutshell... :slug:
The twitter account claimed Beltran was being hired something like three days before it was official, if that counts for anything.

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Postby MWB » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:22 pm

Newly hired Carlos Beltran fired by the Mets due to his involvement with the sign stealing shenanigans. Apparently the involved players receive no punishment if they're still players but if they've moved on to coaching positions MLB is considering them fair game.
Heard or read that Beltran was the only player named in the report. Guess this was MLB’s way of punishing without breaking immunity terms.

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Postby MWB » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:55 pm



Not to go too conspiracy here, but if mlb did investigate the buzzer stuff, would they really want it to come out that their last three post seasons were tainted?

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Postby Pavel Bure » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:11 pm



Not to go too conspiracy here, but if mlb did investigate the buzzer stuff, would they really want it to come out that their last three post seasons were tainted?
You mean like how steroids single handedly rejuvenated their sport previously? Any press is good press for the MLB.

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Postby MWB » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:42 pm

Not really the same at all. Steroids resulted in a home run record chase. What’s the upside to this?

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Postby Pavel Bure » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:34 pm

Not really the same at all. Steroids resulted in a home run record chase. What’s the upside to this?
A lot of old heads yelling at clouds?

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Postby mikey » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:01 am

You understand how that is not upside, yes?

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Postby mikey » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:17 am

Yeah, this reminds me of a discussion I had with someone about Seattle's steroid use vs New England's game plan stealing...huge advantage: New England. I don't know that it's even a little bit close...

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