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Postby Morkle » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:51 pm

Well this isn't really helping...
That was all the way back in 1994 IIRC - I've probably flown 40-50 times in the past two years lol.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:56 pm

@nocera, which airline are you flying?

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Postby nocera » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:57 pm

@nocera, which airline are you flying?
Delta. Well, Delta Connection.

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Postby mamaemeritus » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:59 pm

Turbulence doesn't really bother me. But when you're in severe bouncing and people around you start wailing and praying out loud, that can get a little under my skin.
Hi.

[Note: I don't pray out loud or wail, but I do have this ultra-reflexive-reach-out-and-grab-the-arm-of-the-guy-next-to-me thing.]

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Postby mamaemeritus » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:00 pm

@nocera - your biggest issue flying to Orlando will be the airborne day care that you're on. Nothing but screaming kids excited to go to Disney!

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:01 pm

@nocera - your biggest issue flying to Orlando will be the airborne day care that you're on. Nothing but screaming kids excited to go to Disney!
I basically only fly American, and our flight to Orlando wasn’t that bad in terms of kids. Saw many more exiting the budget carrier gates.

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Postby Morkle » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:04 pm

Depends on when you go to Orlando. This isn't really traveling season as it's ridiculously hot. Probably more old people than kids. Wheelchair brigades were awful boarding and de-boarding.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:09 pm

Oh, the way I look at that? If we're going to crash I'm likely already passed out from de-pressurization, or that few minutes is going to suck until impact then I'm not going to feel a thing.

When is the last time a US plane actually crashed on US soil? I think that worry is overblown, but if it's your time, I'd imagine you're more likely to get killed in a car accident before a plane.
*checks to make sure shad didn't make this post*

okay you're good

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Postby Morkle » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:14 pm

Oh, the way I look at that? If we're going to crash I'm likely already passed out from de-pressurization, or that few minutes is going to suck until impact then I'm not going to feel a thing.

When is the last time a US plane actually crashed on US soil? I think that worry is overblown, but if it's your time, I'd imagine you're more likely to get killed in a car accident before a plane.
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okay you're good
Why the check? There isn't even a hint of racism. :pop:

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:15 pm

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:31 pm

:lol:

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Postby skullman80 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:41 pm

Toronto traffic succckkkssss.

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Postby Shyster » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:18 pm

When is the last time a US plane actually crashed on US soil?
It was a while ago, late 2016, iirc. And it wasn't even a crash, it was an engine failure that resulted in an aborted takeoff; plane never left the ground. Only injuries occurred during evacuation.
Depends on what kind of crash we're talking about. If it's any commercial passenger aircraft, then just this last Tuesday a de Havilland Canada DHC-3T Turbine Otter operated by Taquan Air (an Alaskan airline based in Ketchikan that offers both charters and scheduled service via floatplanes) crashed into a mountain on Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. No fatalities, but some injuries among the 11 occupants/crew. Crashes of minor commercial passenger aircraft like that have happened more recently.

If we are talking about the most recent time there was an actual fatal air-to-ground crash of an aircraft operated by (or for) a major passenger airline, I believe that would be Colgan Air Flight 3407, which was a Bombardier Dash-8 Q400 that crashed on approach to Buffalo in February 2009. It was being operated on behalf of Continental Airlines as a Continental Connection flight. The aircraft stalled—likely due to icing—and whether due to fatigue or due to faulty training, the pilots did not adequately respond to the stall.

If we're talking about the last fatal crash of a mainline-type jet aircraft in the US, that would be UPS Airlines Flight 1354, which was an Airbus A300-600F that crashed on approach to Birmingham–Shuttlesworth Airport in Alabama in August 2013. The pilots did not properly stabilize the approach, blew minimums, and did a CFIT (controlled flight into terrain) into a hill.

As someone who suffers from a pretty significant anxiety disorder (complete with a history of panic attacks) I can understand the fear of flying and what nocera is going through. I'm fortunate that flying does not trigger my anxiety. I'm too much of an aviation geek for that. If it's any comfort, just remember that the likelihood of getting injured or killed on the drive to the airport is, statistically speaking, vastly higher than the odds of an accident involving the flight itself. We generally don't think in those terms, but driving is way more dangerous than flying.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:21 pm

Why the check? There isn't even a hint of racism. :pop:
Asian airline pilots amirite?

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Postby Morkle » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:25 pm

Why the check? There isn't even a hint of racism. :pop:
Asian airline pilots amirite?
Lol

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:26 pm

Shyster with the recent crash history play-by-play to help ease nerves cause panic.

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Postby Shyster » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:41 pm

Others might have different views, but one of the things I've learned from my borderline-autistic interest with aviation is just how rare aviation accidents are, as well as just how hard the aviation industry works in order to learn lessons from every incident. Colgan Air 3407, for example, led to a bunch of regulatory changes in areas ranging from pilot fatigue standards to license qualifications to changes to simulator training for stall recovery. I find it comforting to know that so many people are working as hard as they can to learn every lesson from an accident, and the safety record for US aviation shows just how well the lessons of the past have been learned.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:19 pm

When is the last time a US plane actually crashed on US soil?
It was a while ago, late 2016, iirc. And it wasn't even a crash, it was an engine failure that resulted in an aborted takeoff; plane never left the ground. Only injuries occurred during evacuation.

If we're talking about the last fatal crash of a mainline-type jet aircraft in the US, that would be UPS
Figures

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Postby skullman80 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:22 pm

2 and a half hours on the QEW going from Toronto back to Niagrara falls. Ugh.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:00 pm

When is the last time a US plane actually crashed on US soil?
It was a while ago, late 2016, iirc. And it wasn't even a crash, it was an engine failure that resulted in an aborted takeoff; plane never left the ground. Only injuries occurred during evacuation.

If we're talking about the last fatal crash of a mainline-type jet aircraft in the US, that would be UPS
Figures
We’re talking about airplanes, not pedoplanes.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:29 pm

2 and a half hours on the QEW going from Toronto back to Niagrara falls. Ugh.
QEW is suck city.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:09 pm

I’ve driven in all kinds of Pittsburgh traffic, and I’ll take it 9/10 vs the Philadelphia traffic I just drove through today. As if the city couldn’t suck balls any more.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:10 pm

I’ve driven in all kinds of Pittsburgh traffic, and I’ll take it 9/10 vs the Philadelphia traffic I just drove through today. As if the city couldn’t suck balls any more.
Philly traffic just never ends.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:10 pm

I’ve driven in all kinds of Pittsburgh traffic, and I’ll take it 9/10 vs the Philadelphia traffic I just drove through today. As if the city couldn’t suck balls any more.
Philly traffic is bad enough, and then you add the Jersey drivers and it goes to another level of ****.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:59 pm

We had to change our vacation plans last minute, so decided to hit up diggerland tomorrow. Originally we were going to take I-80 to avoid Philly. Probably still would have been faster to take 80

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