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I bet Boston in 5 or 6, so hoping they drop a game.
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JJ Redick back in pole position for Lakers job as Hurley says no.
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People from Dallas having a bad time is one of my favorite things.
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I just flipped on the game and while it’s nice to see the Macs within 3, it’s not great to see that they had to have a 20-2 run to get there

I expect the Celtics to win the series. I just want it to go 6 games so my bet hits
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also Luka is really getting exposed for being out of shape this series imo. If he doesn’t work his ass off in the offseason to lose some weight and get a little quicker it’ll be disappointing
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clear charge imo
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MalkinIsMyHomeboy wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:45 pm clear charge imo
lol


I hate the “the defender need to have their feet set” rule in situations like this. Brown clearly just ran into Doncic, even Doncic was moving his feet. It’s such a dumb rule
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That definitely wasn’t a clear charge. Luka impeded him. He’s going back with Brown, then stops and moves up a little. It’s not like he had established position and then Brown just ran into him.
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I was genuinely surprised that replay stayed with the correct call on the floor. I figured there would be some shenanigans to keep Luka in the game so we might not have an 0-3 series.
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They were losing before, during, and after the foul. I'm sure the talking heads will spend a copious amount of time talking about it until the next tip-off. I know it was the first time he's ever fouled out of a playoff game but it takes 6 fouls, it's not like it was some random injustice.
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I think if he doesn’t foul it, they complete the comeback and win. But he did, so it doesn’t really matter.
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MWB wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:10 pm That definitely wasn’t a clear charge. Luka impeded him. He’s going back with Brown, then stops and moves up a little. It’s not like he had established position and then Brown just ran into him.
lol “clear” wasn’t accurate but I believe it was a charge though. Not sure if it really would’ve mattered in the microcosm of the game because they would’ve kept attacking Luka but I can’t stand how the offensive player can run into the defensive player and draw a foul


It’s what sets the NHL playoffs apart from other sports imo. Basketball in particular can get so ticky tacky, even in big moments in big games. In the NHL playoffs it’s generally much more “deserved” when there’s a penalty called
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One of the main principles in basketball officiating is 'referee the defense'. In this situation, was Doncic in legal guarding position? He wasn't. If the defender is in legal guarding position, it takes away from the strategy of offensive players running into them to draw fouls.

He may be a star player but Doncic is a **** defender and a lot of that is due to his fitness (go find the Brian Windhorst evisceration on Van Pelt's show last night) and a smart team will attack that weakness on defense and know that they will get fouls on a lazy defender.
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Brian Windhorst chastised someone for being out a shape, huh?
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Yeah, it was kind of your typical “lazy defense.” He’s not down in a stance or sliding his feet.
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Post by MalkinIsMyHomeboy »

I agree that he is a lazy defender in general but in that specific instance it was either a non-call or a offensive foul
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OP, a referee, just explained why it was a foul

and your response was basically, "nuh uh"
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lol are you implying that you never disagree with referees?
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When a ref gives an explanation of why a call is made, which goes with the rule book and is supported by video evidence, it’s hard to disagree.
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lol the only thing he said that references the rule book was “is he in legal guarding position” which is subjective
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Very very few people would look at that clip and say Luka was in a legal guarding position, or established any type of good defensive position.
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MWB wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:32 pm Very very few people would look at that clip and say Luka was in a legal guarding position, or established any type of good defensive position.
This
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Yep, Windy was spot on

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Post by Orlando Penguin »

From the NFHS (high school) rules book:
Section 23 - Guarding
ART. 1

Guarding is the act of legally placing the body in the path of an offensive opponent. There is no minimum distance required between the guard and opponent, but the maximum is 6 feet when closely guarded. Every player is entitled to a spot on the playing court provided such player gets there first without ­illegally contacting an opponent. A player who extends an arm, shoulder, hip or leg into the path of an opponent is not considered to have a legal position if contact occurs.



ART. 2

To obtain an initial legal guarding position:

a. The guard must have both feet touching the playing court.

b. The front of the guard’s torso must be facing the opponent.



ART. 3

After the initial legal guarding position is obtained:

a. The guard may have one or both feet on the playing court or be airborne, provided he/she has inbound status.

b. The guard is not required to continue facing the opponent.

c. The guard may move laterally or obliquely to maintain position, ­provided it is not toward the opponent when contact occurs.

d. The guard may raise hands or jump within his/her own vertical plane.

e. The guard may turn or duck to absorb the shock of imminent contact.



ART. 4

Guarding an opponent with the ball or a stationary opponent ­without the ball:

a. No time or distance is required to obtain an initial legal position.

b. If the opponent with the ball is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal position before the opponent left the floor.



ART. 5

Guarding a moving opponent without the ball:

a. Time and distance are factors required to obtain an initial legal position.

b. The guard must give the opponent the time and/or distance to avoid contact.

c. The distance need not be more than two strides.

d. If the opponent is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal position before the opponent left the floor.
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what an imbecile




Boston is gonna win by 50 now
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