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I’m shocked that the qanon people aren’t interested in the US government doing human trafficking.
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RonnieFranchise wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:11 am At least our right to bear arms is unscathed, that’s the important thing. Those other rights, meh.
Obama was so close to getting those guns, too.
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dodint wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:43 am
RonnieFranchise wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:11 am At least our right to bear arms is unscathed, that’s the important thing. Those other rights, meh.
Obama was so close to getting those guns, too.
Give it time… he’s still working on it.
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Puppet master Obama is getting the maga chuds to amend the constitution to allow presidents to be elected more than two terms.
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Troy Loney wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:38 am I’m shocked that the qanon people aren’t interested in the US government doing human trafficking.
Qanon and many others don’t care about people they consider subhuman
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MWB wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:50 pm And would you say you’re still right about supporting Trump? I wouldn’t think a person who supports free will could support Trump in many ways right now.

I support many things the current administration is doing, and I oppose many things the current administration is doing.
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Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:51 am
MWB wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:50 pm And would you say you’re still right about supporting Trump? I wouldn’t think a person who supports free will could support Trump in many ways right now.

I support many things the current administration is doing, and I oppose many things the current administration is doing.
Does the good outweigh the bad? Are you still happy with your vote?
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wtfc
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https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2025/0 ... vacuation/

Stand back and stand by
A late-night fire at Gov. Josh Shapiro’s official state residence in Harrisburg on Sunday was caused by arson, according to the Pennsylvania State Police.

In a social media message, Shapiro said he and his family “woke up to bangs on the door from the Pennsylvania State Police after an arsonist set fire to the Governor’s Residence in Harrisburg.”

“The Harrisburg Bureau of Fire was on the scene and while they worked to put out the fire, we were evacuated from the Residence safely by Pennsylvania State Police and assisted by Capitol Police,” he said. “Thank God no one was injured and the fire was extinguished.”
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MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:50 am Does the good outweigh the bad? Are you still happy with your vote?
So far, yes. And yes.
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shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:58 am
A late-night fire at Gov. Josh Shapiro’s official state residence in Harrisburg on Sunday was caused by arson, according to the Pennsylvania State Police.
Does Shapiro own a Tesla?
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Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:32 pm
MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:50 am Does the good outweigh the bad? Are you still happy with your vote?
So far, yes. And yes.
I could be wrong, but based on what you post here it seems like your biggest issues are individual freedoms, gun rights, taxation, strength of government and freedom of speech (obviously that's an individual freedom, but also tied to the press). Gun rights aren't being touched yet, so you're certainly happy there. However, this administration seems to be pushing all the others in a negative way compared to any recent administrations. Individuals are being detained and shipped to other countries without due process and the prospect of it happening to US citizens also seems to be on the table. Tariffs are a huge tax increase. The executive branch of the government is attempting to gain as much power as it possibly can and is threatening the judicial branch. People are being detained for their speech and the administration is taking legal action against media outlets. I know you believe that the pendulum had swung too far one direction, and I agree in some aspects. But it's swinging much further in the other direction now, and that swing will likely impact more people in a much more serious way.
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Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:43 pm
shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:58 am
A late-night fire at Gov. Josh Shapiro’s official state residence in Harrisburg on Sunday was caused by arson, according to the Pennsylvania State Police.
Does Shapiro own a Tesla?
Good question. It is as arson, though. Not spontaneous combustion of a second-rate ev
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meow wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:31 pm
Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:43 pm
shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:58 am
A late-night fire at Gov. Josh Shapiro’s official state residence in Harrisburg on Sunday was caused by arson, according to the Pennsylvania State Police.
Does Shapiro own a Tesla?
Good question. It is as arson, though. Not spontaneous combustion of a second-rate ev
Yes, arson, which has been a growing trend by leftist lunatics burning Teslas.
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MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:29 pm
Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:32 pm
MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:50 am Does the good outweigh the bad? Are you still happy with your vote?
So far, yes. And yes.
I could be wrong, but based on what you post here it seems like your biggest issues are individual freedoms, gun rights, taxation, strength of government and freedom of speech (obviously that's an individual freedom, but also tied to the press). Gun rights aren't being touched yet, so you're certainly happy there. However, this administration seems to be pushing all the others in a negative way compared to any recent administrations. Individuals are being detained and shipped to other countries without due process and the prospect of it happening to US citizens also seems to be on the table. Tariffs are a huge tax increase. The executive branch of the government is attempting to gain as much power as it possibly can and is threatening the judicial branch. People are being detained for their speech and the administration is taking legal action against media outlets. I know you believe that the pendulum had swung too far one direction, and I agree in some aspects. But it's swinging much further in the other direction now, and that swing will likely impact more people in a much more serious way.
It’s more that the WH is being mean to women, foreigners, and gays and he applaudes that. Everything else is things you can act like you care about but really don’t and that’s why libertarianism is a completely fraudulent set of ideas
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MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:29 pm
Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:32 pm
MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:50 am Does the good outweigh the bad? Are you still happy with your vote?
So far, yes. And yes.
I could be wrong, but based on what you post here it seems like your biggest issues are individual freedoms, gun rights, taxation, strength of government and freedom of speech (obviously that's an individual freedom, but also tied to the press). Gun rights aren't being touched yet, so you're certainly happy there. However, this administration seems to be pushing all the others in a negative way compared to any recent administrations. Individuals are being detained and shipped to other countries without due process and the prospect of it happening to US citizens also seems to be on the table. Tariffs are a huge tax increase. The executive branch of the government is attempting to gain as much power as it possibly can and is threatening the judicial branch. People are being detained for their speech and the administration is taking legal action against media outlets. I know you believe that the pendulum had swung too far one direction, and I agree in some aspects. But it's swinging much further in the other direction now, and that swing will likely impact more people in a much more serious way.
We're aware that guns outweigh all the rest of that, including massive theft, right?
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MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:29 pm
Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:32 pm
MWB wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:50 am Does the good outweigh the bad? Are you still happy with your vote?
So far, yes. And yes.
I could be wrong, but based on what you post here it seems like your biggest issues are individual freedoms, gun rights, taxation, strength of government and freedom of speech (obviously that's an individual freedom, but also tied to the press). Gun rights aren't being touched yet, so you're certainly happy there. However, this administration seems to be pushing all the others in a negative way compared to any recent administrations. Individuals are being detained and shipped to other countries without due process and the prospect of it happening to US citizens also seems to be on the table. Tariffs are a huge tax increase. The executive branch of the government is attempting to gain as much power as it possibly can and is threatening the judicial branch. People are being detained for their speech and the administration is taking legal action against media outlets. I know you believe that the pendulum had swung too far one direction, and I agree in some aspects. But it's swinging much further in the other direction now, and that swing will likely impact more people in a much more serious way.
Trump letting Elon destroy federal agencies is a positive.

So causing social, health, and economic calamity is a net positive to demonstrate those libertarian bonafides
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Troy Loney wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 2:46 pm Trump letting Elon destroy federal agencies is a positive.

So causing social, health, and economic calamity is a net positive to demonstrate those libertarian bonafides
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Trump is the first president in history that is clearly trying to establish an autocracy. He wipes his ass with the Constitution. He talks openly about people that oppose him being "traitors" that should be brought to justice.

But he's firing a bunch of bureaucrats so he gets a pass. He's not terminating them to shrink the government, he's doing it to eliminate any potential opposition to his rule. At least there are some principled libertarians out there that recognize the threat for what it is.
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shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:59 pm. At least there are some principled libertarians out there that recognize the threat for what it is.
Some what? I’m not following
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shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:59 pm Trump is the first president in history that is clearly trying to establish an autocracy. He wipes his ass with the Constitution.
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Lemon Berry Lobster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:39 pm
meow wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:31 pm
Shyster wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:43 pm
shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:58 am
A late-night fire at Gov. Josh Shapiro’s official state residence in Harrisburg on Sunday was caused by arson, according to the Pennsylvania State Police.
Does Shapiro own a Tesla?
Good question. It is as arson, though. Not spontaneous combustion of a second-rate ev
Yes, arson, which has been a growing trend by leftist lunatics burning Teslas.
2 wrongs don't make a right, or are you saying you're simply ok with a little antisemetic arson since Tesla was attacked. I just want to know where the what if stops being OK.

For the record, arrest everyone in this instance that commits a crime. That's not terribly hard to say.
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Troy Loney wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:02 pm
shafnutz05 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:59 pm. At least there are some principled libertarians out there that recognize the threat for what it is.
Some what? I’m not following
There aren't many. Jacob Grier came to mind.
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Morkle wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:37 pm
For the record, arrest everyone in this instance that commits a crime. That's not terribly hard to say.
Psh… the Trump admin arrests them without committing crimes. And wants to ship them to El Salvador.
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Morkle wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:37 pm
2 wrongs don't make a right, or are you saying you're simply ok with a little antisemetic arson since Tesla was attacked. I just want to know where the what if stops being OK.

For the record, arrest everyone in this instance that commits a crime. That's not terribly hard to say.
In what way, shape, or form am I saying I was okay with the attempted arson? Also, from the article it says the police do not know the motive so you can't say that it is antisemetic.
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