Non-Military Aviation

[dodint]

Didn't build the wall high enough.

[Shyster]

Republic is who I want to fly for. They have a base at PIT and feed three majors.

Plus thanks to scope clauses, they'll be flying the exact same E175s for the next hundred years, so you'd never have to transition to a different type.

[Shyster]

If this report is accurate, this would be a major clue to what happened.

[redwill]

Republic is who I want to fly for. They have a base at PIT and feed three majors.

[RonnieFranchise]

Wasn’t actually a plane crash in Philly, duh

[Shyster]

I've never been able to understand what people expect to see from a crash like that. Like a mostly intact airplane with a big dent in its nose, like it just had a fender-bender in the Walmart parking lot? Yeah, aircraft are designed to be strong and to withstand the forces of flight. Forces that do not include hitting the ground in a sharp dive at 300+ mph. When that happens, they get blasted into the tiny bits that are visible all over the road.

[tifosi77]

There's usually much more of a forward vector involved with aircraft accidents and a debris field. They don't tend to create 4' deep craters in city streets. Wow.

[dodint]

To be fair it is a Pennsylvania street, the crater may have already been there.

[RonnieFranchise]

facts

[Shyster]

CVR recovered for the Philly crash. This aircraft was not required to have a FDR, but the NTSB says they may be able to get data off the ground proximity warning system. I believe this flight was operating under Part 135 of the FAA regulations, which applies to air-charter, air-ambulance, and other sorts of on-demand charter flights, and I think if I reading the regs correctly all Part 135 aircraft are required to have CVRs, but they only need FDRs if they have over a certain number of seats (something like 10), and the Lear 55 is smaller than that minimum.

[Shyster]

The Kazakh aviation authorities released the preliminary report on Azerbaijan Airlines Flight J28243, and it cements what everyone has already concluded, namely, that it was a Russian shoot-down:

- Due to adverse weather conditions the aircraft unsuccessfully attempted to land in Grozny two times, and then the captain decided to return to Baku.
- Almost immediately after this decision and the second go-around, the CVR recorded two loud external noises, occurring with 24 seconds, over Grozny.
- Four seconds after the first noise, hydraulic system #3 failed, followed by system #1 six seconds after and system #2 twenty-one seconds after.
- Recovered parts of the fuselage, particularly toward the tail, were riddled with "through and through" holes from an external force.
- The relatively intact tail, which broke away during the crash, showed hydraulic lines and cables that had been severed by shrapnel.
- Numerous pieces of "foreign objects that did not belong to the aircraft structure," i.e., metal shrapnel, were found in the wreckage.
- The engines were running until the crash, and there are no signs of any bird strikes.

[Shyster]

Oopsie. Seems like the Delta 737 was waiting to be de-iced and might have been sticking too far out for the JAL 787 to clear behind.

I suppose if you're going to damage a couple Boeings, Seattle might be a pretty good place to do it. Spare parts are probably a very short trip away.

[Shyster]

[dodint]

Alaska flying is a whole different thing.

[shafnutz05]

I spent a few weeks in Nome on tour, man that was a wild experience. Visiting the saloon Earp opened up was cool. Alcoholism was... Prevalent. Ran a 10k under the midnight sun.

[tifosi77]

When we went to Alaska one of our hosts/guides said in the non-winter months the airspace around Anchorage was the most congested in the world with all the GA flights. I never fact checked that, but it certainly passed the eyeball test.

[Shyster]

Well, f**k. RIP to those aboard.

[dodint]

As part of my training I am required to complete a solo 150nm flight that has landings at three airports, with one leg being greater than 50nm. I found a four hour window in my schedule yesterday that met the requisite weather requirements, daylight requirements, and the ability to line up my schedule with my instructors and the airplanes. So I went for it.

Flew from Latrobe to Clarksburg, WV (70nm), then to Washington County (50nm) and then back to Latrobe (41nm) which was a nice 161nm trip. I landed a few minutes before civil twilight.

It was simultaneously terrifying and...boring? Once you've gotten ahead of the airplane and you settle into cruise you're just kind of waiting for something to go wrong. So I took pictures:



That's Rt. 40 in Uniontown where it cuts into the ridge. I'm cruising at 6,500 feet which is about 4,000 feet above the ground below.



Obligatory.



The panel I was flying with. It's hard to see because of the sync of the camera shutter, but I have a moving map GPS above the radio stack. It talks directly to the tablet I have on the left side of my kneeboard. I was on flight following with Johnstown, Clarksburg, and Pittsburgh helping me spot aircraft (along with the ADSB tracks on the GPS, and visual scanning).

I say 'terrifying' because I'm scared of heights. And when I'm completely caught up with everything I am left to sit and think about how the tiniest bit of aluminum and 4,000ft of empty air separates me from some yinzers backyard.

[Shyster]

2025 is turning out to be a bad year for CRJs. Very clear view of the Toronto crash:

[LITT]

put on your seatbelt for landing

[Troy Loney]

Let me guess, the pilot was a DEI hire

[dodint]

Being an amateur looking at that one video, it looks like they came in for the landing and lost track of their altitude. Probably from managing the winds and the difficulty in seeing the snow covered runway (the lack of contrast affecting depth perception). It came in like a carrier landing, not rounding out into a flare. I assume the hard landing buckled the gear, with the right side going first which induced the roll, and the rest is as depicted.

With everyone surviving it should be pretty easy to get an answer on this one.

[tifosi77]

From some of the earlier reporting it sounded almost like near white out visual conditions which I thought night have lead to a failure to flare. But that video doesn't really support that.

A few passenger accounts indicated it was gusty, but none of the ones I've heard said they felt a sudden downward surge that might indicate a microburst. It certainly looks like a no-flare 700 fpm hit.

[Shyster]

Being an amateur looking at that one video, it looks like they came in for the landing and lost track of their altitude. Probably from managing the winds and the difficulty in seeing the snow covered runway (the lack of contrast affecting depth perception). It came in like a carrier landing, not rounding out into a flare. I assume the hard landing buckled the gear, with the right side going first which induced the roll, and the rest is as depicted.

With everyone surviving it should be pretty easy to get an answer on this one.

Concur 100% with all of this. For whatever reason, the PIC slammed that thing down, and with the crosswind, the right main gear hit first and took the brunt of the impact, exceeding its capacity and likely punching it up through the wing. The aircraft immediately started to skid and then rolled, tearing off the wings. Which likely contributed to the lack of any loss of life, becuase the fuel-filled wings ended up away from the fuselage.

I believe that the aircraft should have a G-meter connected to the FDR. Will be intersting to see how many Gs that landing pulled.

[Ad@m]

Delta Air Lines is offering $30,000 to each passenger on board a jet that crashed and flipped upside down Monday in the snow at Toronto Pearson International Airport while landing.

Airport CEO, Deborah Flint, said most of the 80 passengers on Delta Airlines Flight 4819 walked away with minor injuries. As of Thursday morning, all 21 of the injured passengers had been released from the hospital.