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I’m sympathetic to him that he’s dumb enough to let Fox News convince him it’s no big deal. Anyone that dumb had my sympathy.
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I know, right? **** that guy. What a **** piece of ****. His body already mapped out how to fight the virus and not pass it along to anyone else, which is basically what the vaccine does. But that's just antivax propaganda, not supported by any science. That guy's a **** dick. **** him. Lololol"Doesn't want to take the vaccine without her"
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Pretty sure him catching the vid and passing it onto to her would have worse consequences for the baby if they both just got the damn shot.
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He should get it to protect his new baby and his wife.I know, right? **** that guy. What a **** piece of ****. His body already mapped out how to fight the virus and not pass it along to anyone else, which is basically what the vaccine does. But that's just antivax propaganda, not supported by any science. That guy's a **** dick. **** him. Lololol"Doesn't want to take the vaccine without her"
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Pretty sure him catching the vid and passing it onto to her would have worse consequences for the baby if they both just got the damn shot.
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Take the right wing “natural immunity” talking point and stick it up your ass.
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Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ains-vital
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21262415v1
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ains-vital
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21262415v1
Those who had Covid and recovered from it can gain increased immunity from vaccination, but at the same time they generally have better immunity that anyone who has been fully vaccinated but not (yet) infected with SARS-CoV-2. It is not unreasonable for such people to decline vaccination when they can reasonably expect to already have a better immune response than that available from vaccination alone, and they would represent no more of a risk for spreading SARS-CoV-2 than someone who is vaccinated.Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
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Oh... Okay... SooooTake the right wing “natural immunity” talking point and stick it up your ass.
It's a talking point now?
So... Humans have never developed natural immunity to a novel virus?
Just...take half a step back and listen to yourselves.
I really don't want to turn this thing on its ear, but we've survived 300,000 years, in part because our body figures it out. Natural immunity exists. It's not a right wing conspiracy. **** hell. Follow **** science, for **** sake.
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It’s interesting because in most lab studies I’ve seen the vax was roughly twice as effective even for Delta. Although this is pre-peer review, I certainly wouldn’t begrudge somebody who has already been infected declining the vaccine at this time as it appears the jury is still out.Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ains-vital
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21262415v1
Those who had Covid and recovered from it can gain increased immunity from vaccination, but at the same time they generally have better immunity that anyone who has been fully vaccinated but not (yet) infected with SARS-CoV-2. It is not unreasonable for such people to decline vaccination when they can reasonably expect to already have a better immune response than that available from vaccination alone, and they would represent no more of a risk for spreading SARS-CoV-2 than someone who is vaccinated.Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
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“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.” For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group. And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.
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Should there be some sort of proof of prior infection required? Or is it based on "I had the rona and it did nothing to me" claims?It’s interesting because in most lab studies I’ve seen the vax was roughly twice as effective even for Delta. But since I’ve seen a fair amount of mixed data, I certainly wouldn’t begrudge somebody who has already been infected declining the vaccine at this time.Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ains-vital
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21262415v1
Those who had Covid and recovered from it can gain increased immunity from vaccination, but at the same time they generally have better immunity that anyone who has been fully vaccinated but not (yet) infected with SARS-CoV-2. It is not unreasonable for such people to decline vaccination when they can reasonably expect to already have a better immune response than that available from vaccination alone, and they would represent no more of a risk for spreading SARS-CoV-2 than someone who is vaccinated.Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
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Yea current recommendation is still get vaccinated even if you had it.It's still being recommended to get the vaccines even if you have had a documented case of covid.
Super immunity they say.
So, continuing the cater.
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Right so...if you've had it, you're protected, and you pose the same risk to others as someone who never had it but is vaxxed.It's still being recommended to get the vaccines even if you have had a documented case of covid.
Super immunity they say.
Right?
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Prior infection + vax is better than prior infection alone. But prior infection alone is certainly not at the level of "never infected, never vaxxed." People who can be certain they already had Covid—as shown, for example, by a positive test—are not the ones driving the current spread.
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I didn't concede that. We don't know how well one is protected from prior infections and that sounds like loophole that many would try to exploit.It's still being recommended to get the vaccines even if you have had a documented case of covid.
Super immunity they say.
Right so...if you've had it, you're protected, and you pose the same risk to others as someone who never had it but is vaxxed.
Right?
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Geno's friends aren't the people earning the outright hate from me. They aren't the ones intentionally extending the pandemic and mitigation practices through reckless conduct. But by the same token they are also not maximizing their odds. So it's still kinda stupid, but in a different way
c2i's brother in law is more the model of the hate earner. My aunt and cousin are the hate earners.
c2i's brother in law is more the model of the hate earner. My aunt and cousin are the hate earners.
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Prior infection or not, it is still free, still easy, and still the reasonable course of action.
My guess is that those that are prior COVID cases also have less side effects from the vaccine; just a WAG by me, though.
My guess is that those that are prior COVID cases also have less side effects from the vaccine; just a WAG by me, though.
Last edited by dodint on Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Cool. Is being concerned about the effect on your unborn baby 'a medical one' or no?There is no excuse outside of a medical one to not get vaccinated. You're shoveling **** uphill genoscoif.
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I don’t think those people did their own research.
In Mississippi, Fetal Deaths Double Among Unvaccinated Pregnant Women With COVID-19
https://www.mississippifreepress.org/15 ... -covid-19/
Worrying’ numbers of pregnant women in intensive care with Covid
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... with-covid
Texas doctors, seeing unprecedented numbers of pregnant patients with COVID-19, urge pregnant people to get vaccinated
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/16 ... y-vaccine/
Doctors Urge Pregnant People, And Those Considering Pregnancy, To Get Vaccinated Against COVID-19
https://www.wlrn.org/news/2021-08-27/do ... t-covid-19
Pregnant people more likely to end up on ventilator after contracting COVID, science table warns
https://www.cp24.com/news/pregnant-peop ... -1.5583720
In Mississippi, Fetal Deaths Double Among Unvaccinated Pregnant Women With COVID-19
https://www.mississippifreepress.org/15 ... -covid-19/
Worrying’ numbers of pregnant women in intensive care with Covid
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... with-covid
Texas doctors, seeing unprecedented numbers of pregnant patients with COVID-19, urge pregnant people to get vaccinated
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/16 ... y-vaccine/
Doctors Urge Pregnant People, And Those Considering Pregnancy, To Get Vaccinated Against COVID-19
https://www.wlrn.org/news/2021-08-27/do ... t-covid-19
Pregnant people more likely to end up on ventilator after contracting COVID, science table warns
https://www.cp24.com/news/pregnant-peop ... -1.5583720
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