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Postby The U » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:13 am

Wut. Does that mean he got hurt in warm-ups? It's not like you're a game time decision testing things out and realize you have a high ankle sprain or something. Weird
Concussion probably

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Postby bhflyhigh » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:43 am

You can add Brendan Witt, Adam Oates, Chris Simon, Dale Hunter, Craig Berube and Joe Juneau to the list of dirty Crapitals.
I don't remember Adam Oates playing dirty. What did he do? Just curious. All I can remember about him is that he would never shoot. He was a pass all the time guy.

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Postby meow » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:18 am

That’s a boarding call. It should have been a minor, but Tinordi going in so awkwardly and being visibly in distress elevates it to a major and a game. IMO.

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Postby King Colby » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:33 am

He took four strides at 1.5x speed to make the hit. It was glaring when I watched a video of the replay
The guy he hit had the puck... up until 1/4 second before he hit him. Not even 1 full stride post release.

Skating to catch a guy with the puck and hitting him is not charging.

That hit happens 30x a game. Not tanevs fault Tinordi is a big oaf who trips over his own two feet. Probably why he's been riding a bus for 10 years.

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Postby shmenguin » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:28 am

That’s a boarding call. It should have been a minor, but Tinordi going in so awkwardly and being visibly in distress elevates it to a major and a game. IMO.
boarding call...because he was vulnerable? i don't get it.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:29 am

from the rule describing boarding:

"However, there is a responsibility on the player with the puck to avoid placing himself in a dangerous and vulnerable position."

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:31 am

Caufield summed it up last night post game imo.. you don't expect a guy that much bigger than you to fold that easily and fly six feet.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:31 am

He a dodint.

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Postby skullman80 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:35 am

I'm all for safety and such, but there was not a damn thing wrong with that hit.

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Postby mikey » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:35 am

Epically bad take. Even the homer Boston announcers said it was a clean hit.
MIMH is taking the NHL video game version of the penalty and replacing the actual use and interpretation of the rule with it...

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Postby nocera » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:37 am

So is Tanev automatically fined $200 (lol) and pending suspension?

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Postby MR25 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:39 am

That’s a boarding call. It should have been a minor, but Tinordi going in so awkwardly and being visibly in distress elevates it to a major and a game. IMO.
boarding call...because he was vulnerable? i don't get it.

The official wording for boarding is
A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently or
dangerously. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.
By letter of rule, this is boarding, but like... how many times is that actually called boarding?

This also implies if you level a dude in the middle of the ice and he slides into the boards, you should be assessed a boarding penalty, which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:56 am

Epically bad take. Even the homer Boston announcers said it was a clean hit.
MIMH is taking the NHL video game version of the penalty and replacing the actual use and interpretation of the rule with it...
Yeah. Now do meows take

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Postby meow » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:04 am

That’s a boarding call. It should have been a minor, but Tinordi going in so awkwardly and being visibly in distress elevates it to a major and a game. IMO.
boarding call...because he was vulnerable? i don't get it.
I don’t think vulnerability plays into it. You can be vulnerable anywhere on the rink. Tanev launched him into the boards.

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Postby nocera » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:05 am

Since there isn't a stupid hockey questions thread, do all major penalties (besides fighting) come with game misconducts now?

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:07 am

one thing I learned last night is that by the rulebook's definition, boarding and charging are both very, very vague. They depend heavily on precedence

you could argue, by the letter of the law, that anytime someone checks someone else into the boards (as long as it qualifies as "violent") that it is boarding

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Postby meow » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:11 am

one thing I learned last night is that by the rulebook's definition, boarding and charging are both very, very vague. They depend heavily on precedence

you could argue, by the letter of the law, that anytime someone checks someone else into the boards (as long as it qualifies as "violent") that it is boarding
There are two guys on the ice to interpret rule book and apply it based on the temperature of the game.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:33 am

and we all know how well that turned out yesterday...

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:34 am

meow just agrees with it because they take the temperature anally.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:35 am

This is making more sense now

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:36 am

losing both Geno and Tanev mid-game was really bad. We had more fourth liners in our forward group than non-fourth liners toward the end

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Postby meow » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:52 am

Judge all you want. I am comfortable in my own skin...and anus...

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Postby shmenguin » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

it wasn't a text book penalty, but i'm not averse to penalizing hits like that because they always end ugly. i actually think the wrong guy is gonna get lit up on one of these and we see a push to change the rule book to not being able to hit a guy as he's in the middle of that kind of follow through in that spot or something.

because it's just one of those icky kinds of plays.

...but i still think they blew the call - given current rulebook

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Postby mikey » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:19 pm

one thing I learned last night is that by the rulebook's definition, boarding and charging are both very, very vague. They depend heavily on precedence

you could argue, by the letter of the law, that anytime someone checks someone else into the boards (as long as it qualifies as "violent") that it is boarding
The entire rulebook is vague, bud...boarding, charging, roughing, slashing, cross checking...they all exist as varying degrees and it all must be considered at live speed...hell, even high sticking is not automatic...that's why they have trained judges on the ice to decide...

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Postby mikey » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:28 pm

Since there isn't a stupid hockey questions thread, do all major penalties (besides fighting) come with game misconducts now?
It's not a dumb question. There are tables in the rulebook that answer this question indirectly...like, boarding and charging are not automatic game misconducts. If there's an injury to the head or face, then it becomes a game misconduct situation...but if you board a player so hard, but he's a slinky, and he lives, you can be assessed a major and leave the penalty box after five minutes and continue to play...

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