The republic managed to stumble along for well over two centuries without an ID requirement. Now all of a sudden there's an existential threat to democracy?
Please.
That's a pretty slippery slope to go down and it's unlikely to break your way I would think...Source of the post The republic managed to stumble along for well over two centuries
Just because I have this weird, sick sense of curiosity, what part of the constitution outlaws income tax?For starters, we didn't have federal income tax until 1913 (minus a few years after the Civil War), namely because it is unconstitutional...but here we are...we did just fine all that time without it...
Voter ID laws purport to address 'voter fraud', but in reality the only thing they can really have any control over, in terms of criminal conduct, is voter impersonation. This is an extraordinarily rare occurrence: A WaPo study that looked at all elections in the U.S. between 2000 and 2014 found 31 instances of such activity........ out of one billion ballots cast.Honestly if you don't have a government issued ID now you are either lazy, was born at the turn of the century or someone like Guinness.
There's rather a big difference between simply saying things should remain as they are because I'm a stick in the mud that's how they should be, and the natural progression of changes in our society and the laws that govern it.That's a pretty slippery slope to go down and it's unlikely to break your way I would think...Source of the post The republic managed to stumble along for well over two centuries
This is a good read on the background of income tax in the United States and why the Sixteenth Amendment was necessary for the income tax we have today.Just because I have this weird, sick sense of curiosity, what part of the constitution outlaws income tax?For starters, we didn't have federal income tax until 1913 (minus a few years after the Civil War), namely because it is unconstitutional...but here we are...we did just fine all that time without it...
As the constitution is currently written, what is unconstitutional about income taxes? Answer: nothing.
Again I ask. Why shouldn't you have to prove you are a citizen of this country to vote? It is stupid.Voter ID laws purport to address 'voter fraud', but in reality the only thing they can really have any control over, in terms of criminal conduct, is voter impersonation. This is an extraordinarily rare occurrence: A WaPo study that looked at all elections in the U.S. between 2000 and 2014 found 31 instances of such activity........ out of one billion ballots cast.Honestly if you don't have a government issued ID now you are either lazy, was born at the turn of the century or someone like Guinness.
Honestly, I don't even know how to express that number. The threat simply is not a thing. The common thread among all these recent court rulings has been that this is a solution in search of a problem.
namely because it is unconstitutional...
Technically is and was are not the same words...Well you are both right, it was unconstitutional prior to 1913, but is not today, because of the Sixteenth Amendment.
Wow, that's pretty wild. The youngest vets would be in their 60s, so it's still possible that one could be elected in 2020. But in all likelihood that's realistically the last shot.I likewise find this an interesting tidbit of history.
https://twitter.com/GrahamDavidA/status ... 9815941120
Don't you have to register to vote? And prove you're a citizen of this country to register?
Again I ask. Why shouldn't you have to prove you are a citizen of this country to vote? It is stupid.
Because in the face of all available impartial evidence, history shows that not requiring it isn't really a problem?Again I ask. Why shouldn't you have to prove you are a citizen of this country to vote? It is stupid.Voter ID laws purport to address 'voter fraud', but in reality the only thing they can really have any control over, in terms of criminal conduct, is voter impersonation. This is an extraordinarily rare occurrence: A WaPo study that looked at all elections in the U.S. between 2000 and 2014 found 31 instances of such activity........ out of one billion ballots cast.Honestly if you don't have a government issued ID now you are either lazy, was born at the turn of the century or someone like Guinness.
Honestly, I don't even know how to express that number. The threat simply is not a thing. The common thread among all these recent court rulings has been that this is a solution in search of a problem.
Yep we went directly from a WWII vet (GHWB) to two draft dodgers (albiet in different ways) in WC and W to someone too young (BO) and another draft dodger and a woman ineligible for service.Wow, that's pretty wild. The youngest vets would be in their 60s, so it's still possible that one could be elected in 2020. But in all likelihood that's realistically the last shot.I likewise find this an interesting tidbit of history.
https://twitter.com/GrahamDavidA/status ... 9815941120
That's encouraging. It doesn't change the reality for the countless people who are actually followed and harassed, but it's something.Straw poll for the board:If you know people of color in your personal life, maybe go see if they've ever been harassed by the police for no reason or regularly followed around in department stores like they're about to steal everything.
Who here has store security follow them around virtually 100% of the time when they enter a store?
When a black guy is killed by police in highly dubious circumstances and there are no criminal charges, or when a prosecutor shows clear bias in favor of the police, or when there is no criminal or extra-judicial sanction for clearly untoward police conduct, it must be viewed through the looking glass of a reality that nearly everyone in this community has not and will not ever directly experience. And these use-of-force incidents are the only visible element of that reality. In that light, it's very easy to look at mitigating facts and arrive at what seems to be a perfectly just and reasoned conclusion, but which obscures and in many cases flatly ignores the larger context which is what really animates things like BLM.
I've worked in retail, in several different stores, and we did not follow, nor did security, every minority that came in. Most of the time it was if you came in baggy pants or an outfit that didn't suit the weather (coat/sweat shirt in the summer)
Should probably just cue up Fortunate Son here.Wow, that's pretty wild. The youngest vets would be in their 60s, so it's still possible that one could be elected in 2020. But in all likelihood that's realistically the last shot.I likewise find this an interesting tidbit of history.
https://twitter.com/GrahamDavidA/status ... 9815941120
The onus is not on the Constitution to outlaw it...the onus is on lawmakers to follow the rules that are established...attacking from the reverse angle is how we got into the economic mess we're currently in...Just because I have this weird, sick sense of curiosity, what part of the constitution outlaws income tax?For starters, we didn't have federal income tax until 1913 (minus a few years after the Civil War), namely because it is unconstitutional...but here we are...we did just fine all that time without it...
Why don't you have to pass a psych eval and gun training course before you excercise your second amendment right?Again I ask. Why shouldn't you have to prove you are a citizen of this country to vote? It is stupid.
Something tells me this is not helping.“I always wanted to get the Purple Heart — this was much easier. I'll tell you, it was such an honor.”
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