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This is the new fire that's closest to tif.

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Stay safe tif, nothing’s worth your life. I’ve got an old HS classmate that’s in the mandatory evac area for the Kent Fire.
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Stay safe tif.
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We went from no fire to evacuation warning in about an hour.

We started getting phone alerts about the potential evacuation (which are loud klaxons like Amber alerts, so we began packing up a car and getting ready. I was watching them drop water and retardant on the Palisades fire when the big DC-10 rolled in for a pass and then suddenly pulled up - mid-run they diverted it to the Kenneth Fire. So it came overhead, and we had close to 20 air assets in our neighborhood from half a dozen agencies/jurisdictions from 3 or so until after sundown, and I'm typing this at nearly 1 am and I can still hear some helicopters about. I've never seen such a rapid and concentrated response to a fire before. Just as an exercise in airmanship and discipline, the deconfliction and coordination that's going on with these efforts is extraordinary. And there are I think four other fires still burning. But as of now the evac orders and warnings have been lifted in our area.

* One of the amphibious Super Scoopers (on loan from Canada) collided with an illegally operated drone over the Kenneth Fire later in the afternoon. So it's offline for at least a day now while it gets patched up. But they are apparently sending a second DC-10 to the area tomorrow.

** The man that was detained in Woodland Hills was in a dense residential neighborhood about 4 miles from the area where the Kenneth Fire started. He was apparently confronted by a resident on that street who saw him with what looked like a makeshift incendiary device (one report suggested maybe a rigged propane tank or something?) and all the neighbors came out and clobbered the guy and zip cuffed him until the rozzers showed up.
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Glad to hear, tif. The response from LAFD and all other firefighters has been impressive to watch from afar.
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Stay safe tif!
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My niece evacuated from the Hollywood Hills a day or two ago. A couple of her friends lost houses/cars/everything. It's ugly.
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since my last morbid post, another 7800 acres burned. So on top of what was destroyed in my last analysis, the area north of leachburg road, west of the turnpike and south of the Allegheny is gone. Goodbye oakmont Verona and the nether regions of plum
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north hills is safe. phew
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MrKennethTKangaroo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:55 am since my last morbid post, another 7800 acres burned. So on top of what was destroyed in my last analysis, the area north of leachburg road, west of the turnpike and south of the Allegheny is gone. Goodbye oakmont Verona and the nether regions of plum
You need to take this to r/Pittsburgh. They looooooooooove trying to connect any world event to Pittsburgh regardless of a complete lack of irrelevance and they would eat this up. Make a crudely drawn overlay on a Google Map screenshot and you'll be swimming in awards.
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Also be sure to add "hot take: Primantis isn't that good."
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dodint wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:22 am
MrKennethTKangaroo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:55 am since my last morbid post, another 7800 acres burned. So on top of what was destroyed in my last analysis, the area north of leachburg road, west of the turnpike and south of the Allegheny is gone. Goodbye oakmont Verona and the nether regions of plum
You need to take this to r/Pittsburgh. They looooooooooove trying to connect any world event to Pittsburgh regardless of a complete lack of irrelevance and they would eat this up. Make a crudely drawn overlay on a Google Map screenshot and you'll be swimming in awards.

Just like local news. I got downvoted for comparing the two lol
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Not Oakmont
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I’d imagine affordable housing and more rail transit, and more bike friendly infrastructure would weasel its way into the discussion
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The fire isn’t crossing the rivers. My spot between the Allegheny and the mon means the fire would have to be moving west from westmoreland

The Pittsburgh wildfire is starting in mt Washington and moving south. Need to redo that overlay
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Some of the LA fires were started by attention-seeking arsonists. I think Pittsburghers have it in them.
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MrKennethTKangaroo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:43 am I’d imagine affordable housing and more rail transit, and more bike friendly infrastructure would weasel its way into the discussion
Chance to clear space for an on campus Pitt stadium
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dodint wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:22 am
MrKennethTKangaroo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:55 am since my last morbid post, another 7800 acres burned. So on top of what was destroyed in my last analysis, the area north of leachburg road, west of the turnpike and south of the Allegheny is gone. Goodbye oakmont Verona and the nether regions of plum
You need to take this to r/Pittsburgh. They looooooooooove trying to connect any world event to Pittsburgh regardless of a complete lack of irrelevance and they would eat this up. Make a crudely drawn overlay on a Google Map screenshot and you'll be swimming in awards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/s/vj9YX8GdsR

Ask and you shall receive (I did not make the post lol)
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The Kenneth Fire is still being investigated as possible arson (as all wildfires are until the cause is established), but the guy who was citizen arrested yesterday has been cleared of any connection. He is however being detained on an unrelated probation violation.

A local company that monitors the electrical grid is reporting that dozens of 'faults' were noted in the hour before and during the initial moments of the Palisades, Eaton, and Hurst fires. A fault is an incident where the power lines came into contact with some other object, either another power line, their own transmission tower, a tree limb, etc. I'm not an electrician, but the way they were reporting it each such fault could (probably did) create some sort of spark.
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MR25 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:41 pm
dodint wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:22 am
MrKennethTKangaroo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:55 am since my last morbid post, another 7800 acres burned. So on top of what was destroyed in my last analysis, the area north of leachburg road, west of the turnpike and south of the Allegheny is gone. Goodbye oakmont Verona and the nether regions of plum
You need to take this to r/Pittsburgh. They looooooooooove trying to connect any world event to Pittsburgh regardless of a complete lack of irrelevance and they would eat this up. Make a crudely drawn overlay on a Google Map screenshot and you'll be swimming in awards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/s/vj9YX8GdsR

Ask and you shall receive (I did not make the post lol)
It jumped the river.
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tifosi77 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:11 pm A local company that monitors the electrical grid is reporting that dozens of 'faults' were noted in the hour before and during the initial moments of the Palisades, Eaton, and Hurst fires. A fault is an incident where the power lines came into contact with some other object, either another power line, their own transmission tower, a tree limb, etc. I'm not an electrician, but the way they were reporting it each such fault could (probably did) create some sort of spark.

Hindsight is 20/20, but one of the things that authorities may want to consider is whether keeping the grid powered (or at least those areas with above-ground power lines) is a good idea during a massive wind storm in extreme drought conditions. Wasn't one of the big fires around they SF Bay area a few years ago determined to have been started by power lines?
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They have been and continue to do intermittent deliberate blackouts. But that's just for end customers. In terms of high tension lines through woodlands I'm not sure if there's an 'off' switch that allows you to 'de-energize' (?) the system. No idea how that works. (Your are right about the Bay Area fire)

Meanwhile the coastal winds shifted a bit and the Palisades Fire is coming up and over the hill into the Valley. Lots of friends in the new fire line. They're evacuating Dave Grohl's neighborhood and the Getty Museum.
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Listen, I have donated to a friend who lost everything. I have donated to the LA humane society. And if more friends need help I’ll gladly pitch in what I can. But Mandy Moore asking for donations for her family? Read the room, Mandy.

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Leave her alone
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Okay
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