Video Games

Post by **eddy** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:39 am

Played about 12 hours of Bond this weekend. Kids are obsessed. Everything is right in the world again.

Post by **skullman80** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:09 pm

Picked up this cool Sonic 2 OST Vinyl from a local retro store near me this weekend. Thought the package was really cool and the music of course is awesome. (Pics put in spoilers in case they are huge)

Gonna pick up a Jurassic Park Snes/Genesis OST Vinyl on Wednesday.

Post by **nocera** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:14 pm

That's awesome. Was it ever actually confirmed that Michael Jackson worked on the music for Sonic 3 or is that just an urban legend?

Post by **skullman80** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:30 pm

Not sure if I ever actually read that was confirmed anywhere.

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:07 pm

He did. He had a relationship with Sega from Moonwalker and agreed to write music for Sonic. But he didn't like the sound quality and so refused to allow the use of his name in marketing/credit.

Post by **nocera** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:14 am

Billy Mitchell update:

tl;dw: Photos were recently released that show Billy and the Donkey Kong machine he used to post the King of Kong score and a slightly higher 1,050,200 score later that year. The footage has already been debunked as illegitimate and now the photos show the machine he played on was not legit either, featuring non-original hardware including an 8-way joystick. This will likely be the final nail in his coffin in his case against Twin Galaxies.

Post by **the wicked child** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:47 am

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Post by **NAN** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:04 am

Ha good video. BM is a giant BM.

Post by **eddy** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:28 pm

Oh man, I forgot how easily it is to kill Natalya and how frustrating that can be. Stupid laser watch on the train trap door

Post by **meecrofilm** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:41 pm

Lolol. Enjoy the Control level.

Post by **shafnutz05** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:27 am

meecrofilm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:41 pm Lolol. Enjoy the Control level.

Control on 00 Agent

Post by **skullman80** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:59 am

I fired up goldeneye on the actual N64 last night. It's still fun but the frame rate is brutal at times. The controls are also frustrating even with an original controller but I got my groove back a bit.

It was a massive achievement for the time but it hasn't aged all that well. Perfect Dark did everything better IMO.

I also don't have the nostalgia for it like most do though.

Post by **Kane** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:23 am

Perfect Dark is so good and the story was great, too. Loved how it started out as a standard espionage game and all of a sudden your rescuing an alien from Area 51 and getting dragged into an intergalactic civil war.

Post by **eddy** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:24 am

shafnutz05 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:27 am
meecrofilm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:41 pm Lolol. Enjoy the Control level.
Control on 00 Agent

****. I'm there now. Completely forgot about this. ****.

Post by **shafnutz05** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:25 am

Kane wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:23 am Perfect Dark is so good and the story was great, too. Loved how it started out as a standard espionage game and all of a sudden your rescuing an alien from Area 51 and getting dragged into an intergalactic civil war.

Yeah, Perfect Dark was a better game in just about every way, but the Bond nostalgia and my love of the film always makes me come back to Goldeneye.

Post by **nocera** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am

I never had the expansion pack when I was a kid so I missed out on Perfect Dark when it was released. I also missed out on Donkey Kong 64 and Majora's Mask for the same reason. I have one now but because I didn't have it as a kid, there's not nostalgia for Perfect Dark. And nostalgia is definitely needed to play any N64 FPS games.

Post by **shafnutz05** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:32 am

nocera wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am I never had the expansion pack when I was a kid so I missed out on Perfect Dark when it was released. I also missed out on Donkey Kong 64 and Majora's Mask for the same reason. I have one now but because I didn't have it as a kid, there's not nostalgia for Perfect Dark. And nostalgia is definitely needed to play any N64 FPS games.

It's crazy how much better I can run the N64 games graphics-wise on my PC vs. playing on the console on a CRT. It actually makes the games fairly playable.

Post by **Kane** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am

Yeah, but that's part of the fun. Before my brother went nuts, we would still hang out a couple times a year and do some multiplayer death match games for a few hours. Didn't have the charm of an old 19" CRT, but still fun.

Post by **skullman80** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:31 pm

I'm playing on a 27" CRT when I play and it's bigger than I had when I was a kid growing up, but it still "feels" right. I mean the N64 had uggglyyyy graphics for the most part (especially polygon stuff), CRT's hid alot of the ugly stuff plus the "blur" the n64 had.

I can only imagine how ugly it would be blown up on a bigger screen even with upscaling and such. N64, Ps1 and other early 3d console machines were helped by the shitty technology at the time that hid all the deficiencies.

Post by **nocera** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:05 pm

I popped in Turok the other day after the Goldeneye discussion happened here. I was trying to think of Goldeneye's competition at the time as far as console FPS games went. I was shocked at how much fog was used to hide the render distance. The game is all fog.

Post by **skullman80** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:09 pm

I picked up Turok 2 the other day for cheap and tried to play it....woof. I think it also helped that most people back in the day were using at best composite connections, some probably still using RF even on N64..which again the color bleed, and natural shittiness of those connections helped hide lots of the "ugly".

I have my N64 hooked up via S-Video now and its definitely a "cleaner" and "clearer" presentation, but it also shows how ugly everything is haha.

SNES on svideo looks great though because of the use of sprites...and I have my genesis hooked up via Component/RGB and it looks beautiful for what it can put out.

The early days of polygons and 3d on consoles were ugly. Very very ugly.

Post by **Morkle** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:15 pm

Man, I found an old stack of Electronic Gaming Monthly during the PS1 days. That was a nostalgia sadness read I wasn't prepared for.

Post by **NAN** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:17 pm

skullman80 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:09 pm I picked up Turok 2 the other day for cheap and tried to play it....woof. I think it also helped that most people back in the day were using at best composite connections, some probably still using RF even on N64..which again the color bleed, and natural shittiness of those connections helped hide lots of the "ugly".

I have my N64 hooked up via S-Video now and its definitely a "cleaner" and "clearer" presentation, but it also shows how ugly everything is haha.

SNES on svideo looks great though because of the use of sprites...and I have my genesis hooked up via Component/RGB and it looks beautiful for what it can put out.

The early days of polygons and 3d on consoles were ugly. Very very ugly.

Yep. I own every N64 NA release games, and I pop some in to replay. Back 20 some years ago, it felt like amazing technology, but in today's world, IMO, it is the worst graphically. Like you mentioned, the NES and Super NES used sprites, which are very "video gamey" and something that I love, as that is how I grew up on games.

I still need to play Bond on the Switch. I'm interested to see how this plays.

Post by **NAN** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:18 pm

I'll occassionally read some old Nintendo powers when I'm bored. Those bring back a lot of nostalgia. Especially like the first 50 issues.

Post by **nocera** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:20 pm

I had a subscription to EGM from about late 95 to early 98. EGM day was such a great day. I wish I held onto those but sadly they're probably in a landfill somewhere.