Las Vegas and Quebec City Move to Phase II of Expansion Process

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Postby Silentom » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:38 pm

I don't mind a new team. I just don't like shitty team names.

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Postby Craig » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:02 pm

I was wondering that too...I guess people don't approve of expansion or the allegedly loose ethics of (Las) Vegas...
I hate expansion and wish they would instead contract, but thats not this team's fault. Im hoping its successful because over time they need to generate enough interest in hockey to net 20 more active nhl worthy players.(to maintain the same deficit of nhl caliber players compared to nhl jobs.)

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:18 pm

I'm completely against expansion, and their entire naming process has been a complete joke. If/when they fail, I will laugh at that, too.

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Postby dodint » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:29 pm

This was mocked on PTI tonight. lulz

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Postby meow » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:43 pm

Wth is PTI?

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:44 pm

dodint and MiMH's love child.

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Postby columbia » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:45 pm

Unlike Greg Lake, insignificant celebrities.

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Postby meow » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:48 pm

:shudders:

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Postby dodint » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:52 pm

Greg Lake? Is that in Nevada too?

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Postby Silentom » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:16 pm

No, I think it's in Oklahoma.

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Postby Jim » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:00 am

I don't mind a new team. I just don't like shitty team names.
You mean like Rangers, Canadians, Red Wings, Maple Leafs (leafs?), Flyers, Wild, Stars, ... Steelers, Pirates, Penguins, etc etc etc...

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Postby Craig » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:15 am

I want the first post here to be in support of what Jim just said. I agree with the sentiment.

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Postby dodint » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:17 am

Steelers? Really. That's an awesome name. It's not borrowed from anything except the city itself. Isn't the mockery of the Golden Knights name based on the fact that it's derivative and vague, to the point that they can't even trademark it?

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Postby iamjs » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:49 am

Why is every team called the Wildcats if this was actually a thing...this is pretty innocuous and nonsensical...just let them have their stupid name and logo and get on with it...
and they couldn't counter with two teams in the AHL/ECHL that were previously both in the AHL known as the Admirals?

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Postby Craig » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:02 pm

Yeah i actually like the stars too but i think the general idea is sound.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:41 pm

There are so many good, easy Vegas names and yet they tried the "golden knights". They deserve to fail. So bland and inoffensive

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Postby Gaucho » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:51 pm

Just Knights would have been ok. Vegas Knights, I like that. Much like the Ducks. **** "mighty".

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Postby shoeshine boy » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:37 am

Why are people so gleeful about bad things happening to this franchise?
because people in traditional hockey markets want to have that feeling of superiority of saying "I knew it!" when the team from the non-traditional hockey market "fails" no matter what the reason for it failing is.

like some folks here I also think expansion is a mistake. like it or not NHL is NOT one of the "Big Four" sports in the USA yet when Vegas officially get rolling the NHL will have 1 more team than both MLB and NBA and only one less team then NFL.

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Postby MR25 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:38 am

Number of teams =/ excitement and goodness of product.

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Postby dodint » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:42 am

Number of teams =/ excitement and goodness of product.
I know what you're saying and agree. If the sentiment were true EPL would be inherently interesting, and it's not.

Just want to add that, from another perspective, more teams means less excitement and goodness of product because there isn't enough talent to go around as it is. Would be great if instead of just adding a team, they shortened the bench at the same time. Would solve a lot of problems right up front.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:24 am

Number of teams =/ excitement and goodness of product.
I know what you're saying and agree. If the sentiment were true EPL would be inherently interesting, and it's not.

Just want to add that, from another perspective, more teams means less excitement and goodness of product because there isn't enough talent to go around as it is. Would be great if instead of just adding a team, they shortened the bench at the same time. Would solve a lot of problems right up front.
eh, the EPL has a bunch of other factors bringing it down, primarily the fact that there isn't a salary cap or a draft, which are the main reasons why the same 5 teams dominate every year (excluding Leicester from last year)


but in general, in my opinion more teams increases excitement for only the local area that gets the team but overall worsens the product. Players that should be playing in the Serbian Hockey League will be in the NHL because more roster spots will have to be filled in an already diluted product

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Postby dodint » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:29 am

And count me in as someone that thinks there will be no local excitement for an ice hockey team in Vegas. If they are pulling numbers even close to the Blue Jackets at their respective 10 year marks I will eat tiff's hat AND mikey's hanger.

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Postby Silentom » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:30 am

Noted.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:32 am

Does Vegas have an AHL and ECHL affiliate? How do they stock those rosters?

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:32 am

And count me in as someone that thinks there will be no local excitement for an ice hockey team in Vegas. If they are pulling numbers even close to the Blue Jackets at their respective 10 year marks I will eat tiff's hat AND mikey's hanger.
yeah, long term I don't know how it's going to be sustainable. After the expansion draft they're going to be a bottom of the barrel team and I doubt they're going to find anyone in the draft worthwhile. It's not going to be successful for a while and at that point, is anyone going to care?


The only thing that supports the notion that they'll be popoular is that it'll be the only pro team in Vegas (that matters) but the same thing can be said about Columbus or Raleigh and they're two of the bottom four in attendance this season
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