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Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:35 pm
by Pavel Bure
He's a game changer and a 40 game suspension risk at the same time.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:52 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Apparently over half of Wilson's salary is in signing bonuses, making it virtually buyout-proof
Indeed. It's a very weirdly structured deal.

2018-19: $5MM bonus, $1.1MM salary, $6.1MM total
2019-20: $3MM bonus, $1.5MM salary, $4.5MM total
2020-21: $2MM bonus, $2.1MM salary, $4.1MM total
2021-22: $3MM bonus, $3.1MM salary, $6.1MM total
2022-23: $2MM bonus, $2.1MM salary, $4.1MM total
2023-24: $1MM bonus, $5.1MM salary, $6.1MM total

I don't recall seeing total compensation undulate like that before. $15MM of $31MM is signing bonus. Also had a 10 team no trade list in 2020-21 and 2021-22 and a 7 team no trade list the final two years.

The Caps did all kinds of stupid stuff with this deal.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:10 pm
by Jim
Apparently over half of Wilson's salary is in signing bonuses, making it virtually buyout-proof

Buyouts look rather "normal" in the later years (2021 etc)

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:45 pm
by Gaucho
Mark Stone asking for 9 million in arbirtration. Annually. In dollars.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:53 pm
by dodint
Yup.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:04 am
by NTP66
Sens give Stone a 1-year, $7.35m contract. He's done in Ottawa after this season, it seems.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:08 am
by Jim
Sens give Stone a 1-year, $7.35m contract. He's done in Ottawa after this season, it seems.

$7.35M... :shock:

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:09 am
by NTP66
That was my first thought, as well. Glad we're not paying him that.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:20 am
by Troy Loney
So caps' plan is to just pay everyone?

They did that last offseason, and it worked, so I guess that's good. I really think they're poised for an epic SC hangover and not be relevant again during Ovechkin's tenure.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:26 am
by mikey
Stone is one of the, what, best five RWs in the game? Top-7? Something like that, right? Doesn't seem too too crazy...

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:43 am
by NTP66
Stone is one of the, what, best five RWs in the game? Top-7? Something like that, right? Doesn't seem too too crazy...
Assuming that you're serious, here's who I'd have ahead of him, in no particular order:

Kessel
Kucherov
Kane
Laine
Tarasenko
Dadonov
Pastrnak
Rantanen
Granlund

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:07 am
by mikey
He's way, way, way ahead of Dadonov...he's ahead of Rantanen, even though Rantanen had a good season last year, he's better than Granlund...

So: Kane, Kucherov, Tarasenko, Laine, Pastrnak sure...Kessel, I guess...and then Stone has to be there...he's also the best defensively by a mile vs. anyone on that list...by a mile...

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:09 am
by meow
Yeah. That’s a fair deal for Stone. He’s kind of a wizard out there

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:06 pm
by MR25
Maybe he can buy himself a helmet that fits with all that money.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:31 pm
by Gaucho
That's a reasonable deal for sure.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:28 pm
by mikey
William Karlsson 1 yr x $5.25 mil
John Gibson 8 yrs x $6.4 mil

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:17 pm
by meow
Karlsson’s is a good deal

Gibson’s is a bit long and large

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:03 pm
by dodint
twss

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:46 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Eh. That contract will go until Gibson is 34, is straight salary with no signing bonus, and he was the only reason the Ducks had a chance in hell last year. Top five-ish in cap hit, top ten-ish in annual salary, but guys like Murray and Holtby are up soon. It’ll age well.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:16 am
by Jim
William Karlsson 1 yr x $5.25 mil
John Gibson 8 yrs x $6.4 mil

I like the bridge for Karlsson. Do it again and you'll get the long term big $. Show that it wasn't an extraordinary one-off.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:21 am
by Gaucho
Problem is, it was.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:08 pm
by Lemon Berry Lobster
Ryan Ellis re-ups with Smashville, 8 years $50 million total, $6.25 per season.

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:44 pm
by mikey
Man that's a good deal...

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:00 pm
by meow
Meh. I’m not a big fan of Ellis

Non-Penguin 2018 signings

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:01 pm
by NTP66
I've always thought he looks weird in his equipment, like it's all a few sizes too big for him.