2018 Trade Deadline, Non-Pens Related

Postby **Tomas** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:42 pm

Is Jason Mraz of Czech lineage, ya think...?

It's literally on his Wikipedia page!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Mraz#Early_life

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:43 pm

I...don't know how to read

Postby **columbia** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:44 pm

In any language.

Postby **Tomas** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:56 pm

I...don't know how to read

Wait until you are pushing 50! BTW, I love Wikipedia - even the totally objective sentence "His surname is Czech for "frost".(Czech: mráz)" has a citation behind it!

Postby **Jim** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:00 pm

From Flyers board about the Mrazek trade, which for reference is a:
2018 4th
-or- 2018 3rd if playoffs and Mrazek wins 5 reg season games
-or- 2018 2nd if conf finals and Mrazek wins 6 playoff games
-plus- 2019 3rd if Mrazek resigns

"To me this is possibly the worst trade Hextall has made as a GM, although 3rd round picks are not extremely valuable, they are still assets that we are giving up for essentially no value in return."
No value in return? You have no NHL caliber goalies to to LONG TERM injuries and a gaolie that is potentially better than either of those injured guys is of no value?

"We should be able to manage that with just about any goalie"
Spoken like a fan that has no idea what winning when it counts feels like.

"If both Neuvy and Elliot are back... Mrazek doesn’t give us any better of a chance to win the Stanley cup, once we are in the playoffs…."
Again, that security for a 3rd pick... not worth it.

"At the end of this season, we will be in exactly the same position with Mrazek as without him, only now we have one more goalie clogging up the system."
Flyer goaltending has stunk for a looooong time. Are they seriously just that used to it that they don't see any need for it to be better?

"The only way this trade becomes valuable is if we a. win the cup b. trade him before July 1st for more than it cost to get him."
So stupid.

Just to stress the point this clown was making... "worst trade Hextall has made as a GM"

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:04 pm

In summary:

Flyers
...
So stupid.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:35 pm

Woof, that's bad...Mrazek is the most talented goalie they have had since Bobrovsky...

Postby **Silentom** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:39 pm

LOLBOBROVSKY.

I rank that as a bad trade on par with the Filip Forsberg trade.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:42 pm

Bobrovsky wasn't nearly as good looking in Philadelphia...to be fair...he had issues they didn't seem keen on addressing, when he got Columbus, they fixed him pretty good...I seriously doubt he does anything noteworthy in Philadelphia...he'd be their starter, yes, but not a Vezina winner...

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:05 pm

Eric Fehr to SJ for a 2020 7th. The Leafs were at 50 contracts, now down to 49.

Postby **Gaucho** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:15 pm

Rangers deal Nick Holden to Boston for D Rob O'Gara and a 3rd round pick.

Postby **columbia** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:23 pm

Preds interested in Gaucho’s boy Tatar.

Postby **Gaucho** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:48 pm

Postby **columbia** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:50 pm

The only steak tartare I’ve ever had was at an Ethiopian restaurant and it was quite good.

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:55 pm

Yeah, no **** way am I eating steak tartar.

Postby **Gaucho** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:59 pm

Never tried it and never had the desire to do so. I'm too squeamish to eat anything that looks gross. Always been.

Anyway, one would think the Preds are hard against the Cap, but they have some serious bargains on their rosters: Josi at $4 mil (signed thru 2020), Ekholm at $3.75 mil (2022), Ellis at $2.5 (2019), Forsberg at $6 mil (2022), Smith at $42.25 mil (2020), Arvidsson at $42.5 mil (2024, hot damn), jarnkrok at $2 mil (2022). Even Turris at $6 mil starting next season is more than reasonable.

Postby **Tomas** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:59 pm

Yeah, no **** way am I eating steak tartar.

My "cool story, Hansel": One of the most memorable (positively

) meals I have ever had. The honeymoon in Swiss Alps (Muerren, hotel "Alpenruh", recommended by the awesome travel expert @shmenguin ). Four-course dinners for two included in the price of the room (below $300, so quite a deal). One evening, steak tartare was served as an appetizer - but the guests had the option to substitute for something boring. Every couple in the hotel did - except for my wife and me. Turns out the hotel chef was really bummed that day when nobody wanted what happened to be his favorite creation. So after learning of our bravery, he made a true masterpiece for us - incredible awesome meat taste, great sides. It seriously looked like something straight out of Michelin 3-star place. All the other guest super-jealous when the waiters brought it. Good times.

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:00 pm

Fehr to the Sharks for a 7th in 2020

Postby **meow** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:10 pm

That’s the closest thing to a bag of pucks as you can get.

Postby **shmenguin** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:30 pm

Yeah, no **** way am I eating steak tartar.
My "cool story, Hansel": One of the most memorable (positively ) meals I have ever had. The honeymoon in Swiss Alps (Muerren, hotel "Alpenruh", recommended by the awesome travel expert @shmenguin ). Four-course dinners for two included in the price of the room (below $300, so quite a deal). One evening, steak tartare was served as an appetizer - but the guests had the option to substitute for something boring. Every couple in the hotel did - except for my wife and me. Turns out the hotel chef was really bummed that day when nobody wanted what happened to be his favorite creation. So after learning of our bravery, he made a true masterpiece for us - incredible awesome meat taste, great sides. It seriously looked like something straight out of Michelin 3-star place. All the other guest super-jealous when the waiters brought it. Good times.

Counting the days until my kids are old enough to go to Murren...

Postby **Tomas** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:36 pm

Yeah, no **** way am I eating steak tartar.
My "cool story, Hansel": One of the most memorable (positively ) meals I have ever had. The honeymoon in Swiss Alps (Muerren, hotel "Alpenruh", recommended by the awesome travel expert @shmenguin ). Four-course dinners for two included in the price of the room (below $300, so quite a deal). One evening, steak tartare was served as an appetizer - but the guests had the option to substitute for something boring. Every couple in the hotel did - except for my wife and me. Turns out the hotel chef was really bummed that day when nobody wanted what happened to be his favorite creation. So after learning of our bravery, he made a true masterpiece for us - incredible awesome meat taste, great sides. It seriously looked like something straight out of Michelin 3-star place. All the other guest super-jealous when the waiters brought it. Good times.
Counting the days until my kids are old enough to go to Murren...

It will not happen for a LONG time in my family, but just curious - how old do you think they should be to enjoy the experience?

Postby **shmenguin** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:50 pm

Yeah, no **** way am I eating steak tartar.
My "cool story, Hansel": One of the most memorable (positively ) meals I have ever had. The honeymoon in Swiss Alps (Muerren, hotel "Alpenruh", recommended by the awesome travel expert @shmenguin ). Four-course dinners for two included in the price of the room (below $300, so quite a deal). One evening, steak tartare was served as an appetizer - but the guests had the option to substitute for something boring. Every couple in the hotel did - except for my wife and me. Turns out the hotel chef was really bummed that day when nobody wanted what happened to be his favorite creation. So after learning of our bravery, he made a true masterpiece for us - incredible awesome meat taste, great sides. It seriously looked like something straight out of Michelin 3-star place. All the other guest super-jealous when the waiters brought it. Good times.
Counting the days until my kids are old enough to go to Murren...
It will not happen for a LONG time in my family, but just curious - how old do you think they should be to enjoy the experience?

I would think middle school aged to do any hiking.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:42 pm

So the Wings will be essentially handing the keys to Coreau at some point? Yeesh. Hindsight is 20/20, but if they were heading for a tank, they could have sold Mrazek so much higher.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:12 pm

I mean, they'll still have Howard next year...I'm not sure the fuss over Coreau...they'll probably draft or acquire a goalie...

Maybe a foundation of Mike Green and Ilya Samsonov makes some sense...

Postby **Tomas** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:32 am

So the Wings will be essentially handing the keys to Coreau at some point? Yeesh. Hindsight is 20/20, but if they were heading for a tank, they could have sold Mrazek so much higher.

I'll let @mikey talk about Mrazek's real hockey potential, but, from the personality point of view, I don't think there is a Czech NHL player disliked by Czech fans more than Mrazek. Huge ego, openly pouted - both in Czech and US media - against being demoted to No. 2 last year, when he was clearly outplayed by Howard (a trend that continues into this season as well, IMO). Many Czech fans actually like mocking Mrazek for his propensity to let easy goals in. So, maybe Mrazek's value wasn't that great to start with (remember Detroit left him unprotected for Vegas expansion draft).