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not cool

Nice kitty.

That’s a nice **** kitty right there

I imagine that Ullmark's presentation is just a team photo and then he kind of Vanna White's it...

I don't remember ever seeing that Ducks jersey. It's harriable.

It was part of the first 3rd jersey program back in 95-96. It only lasted one season, though, for obvious reasons. In recent years, public opinion has swayed back in its favor mostly because of throwback/nostalgia culture.

originals of this "Wild Wing" jeresy and the Kings "Burger King" jersey go for crazy amounts on eBay.

This is **** up and beyond rephrensible by Arizona to draft this kid and give him a chance. He's shown no remorse for what he did:

What a shithead.

@mikey , what do they do with this kid?

Why should he be written off for something done as a child? If the CEO is big on the anti-bully train, wouldn't this be a great attempt to rehab someone and make them part of the message?

It's terrible what he did, but he should get a chance to turn a big negative into a big positive. If he can become an advocate of anit-bullying, then this is a win no matter what happens on the ice.

Because sticking candy into a urinal and giving it to a mentally handicapped kid you've already been bullying for years is a level of psychotic that someone really can't come back from.

And he's shown no remorse, including skating past the victim's house every day, which is borderline harassment.

It's been 4 years and the only remorse the player has shown, by the reporting and comments from other teams, is that he was caught, not that he was sorry for doing it. This is still very much fresh, and to say "he was just a child" seems ignorant of how long he did this and how old he was before he finally went to court.

@mikey , what do they do with this kid?

They drafted him. Everyone in the hockey world knew this coming in. Some teams just marked him as a ND...obviously Arizona made the investment, Tri-City made the investment, North Dakota made the investment in this kid...and it's really a matter of how much you believe in him, believe in him actually getting the help/treatment that he needs/needed to rehabilitate his trash, repetitive behavior...and then for third parties like us, it's about whether or not you believe a person can be redeemed or not...whether you believe in rehabilitation or not...

For a bunch of people whining and crying about bullying... people are bullying the heck out of this Miller.

But then that's what the anti-bullying people are... a bunch of bullies.

Go ahead, prove me right by attacking me.

Youch...

Bold strategy cotton

Bullying a bully is my absolute favorite pastime.

Maybe so but is jim bullying the bully's bully? I lost track

Maybe so but is jim bullying the bully's bully? I lost track

I didnt say to stop. I just pointed it out.

When I bully, there is no need for a ?

What does anyone gain by blackballing this kid? Vindication for the victim? Does he want that?

Why should someone who abused a mentally challenged kid for years and showed no remorse get a shot at the NHL?

The opportunity to play in the league is one that is earned, not given. A psychopath who abuses a kid for years should not just be handed an opportunity like the Coyotes are giving. This is for beyond bullying and sets a terrible example that you can sweep away years of abuse just because you're good at a sport.

Via the mother's letters, it's pretty evident that family doesn't want to see Miller afforded this opportunity due to his actions. How do you think they should feel, given their son's abuser has a chance to be set for life because the Coyotes chose to look the other way?

What does anyone gain by blackballing this kid? Vindication for the victim? Does he want that?

The bullied kid's mother wrote a letter. It seems she wants that.

Ok. I understand her perspective. So the kid gets blackballed from the NHL. Now what? We all live happily ever after?

I don't believe a kid should be penalized the rest of his life for something he did at 14 years old. But he should probably show a little more remorse and actually apologize

At the least