Las Vegas and Quebec City Move to Phase II of Expansion Process

Postby **PFiDC** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:07 am

Source of the post Players with a no-movement clause will NOT be available to be drafted.

Yuge

Postby **columbia** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:19 am

Yes, indeed

Postby **nocera** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:21 am

So what does this mean for our goalie dilemma?

Postby **NTP66** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:24 am

It sounds like Fleury would be exempt, and we'd be able to protect Murray - unless the NHL views that exempt list as "already protected", meaning that we wouldn't be able to protect Murray. I doubt we'll know for 100% certainty until the Penguins themselves comment on it.

Postby **Beveridge** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:08 pm

Fleury doesn't have a NMC though. He has a limited NTC.

The only ones exempt will be Crosby and Malkin - based on that info.

Postby **NTP66** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:11 pm

Fleury doesn't have a NMC though. He has a limited NTC.

The only ones exempt will be Crosby and Malkin - based on that info.

Fleury has an NMC with a limited NTC (something like 12 teams he can be traded to).

Postby **Beveridge** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:13 pm

Fleury doesn't have a NMC though. He has a limited NTC.

The only ones exempt will be Crosby and Malkin - based on that info.
Fleury has an NMC with a limited NTC (something like 12 teams he can be traded to).

Missed that.

Guess we'll know more June 22.

Will be interesting to see if Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Letang, and Fleury can all be protected without them counting toward the total.

Postby **willeyeam** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:17 pm

I saw this on Reddit, and figured most would want to read it:

[*]Any players in to their 2 first years of entry level contract will not be exposed to the expansion draft.

Wouldn't this be our saving grace?

Postby **NTP66** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:26 pm

With regards to Sprong, absolutely.

Postby **Craig** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:43 pm

So what does this mean for our goalie dilemma?

It sounds like it means they can keep fleury and murray, so the dilemma is alive and well.

Postby **dodint** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:44 pm

Nice, Craig.

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:04 pm

https://twitter.com/PittsburghPG/status ... 8487494656

Postby **meecrofilm** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:23 pm

It sounds like Fleury would be exempt, and we'd be able to protect Murray - unless the NHL views that exempt list as "already protected", meaning that we wouldn't be able to protect Murray. I doubt we'll know for 100% certainty until the Penguins themselves comment on it.

That's my interpretation of it. Having it the other way would leave only scraps for the new team to draft, since most teams' star players have some sort of movement clause in their contracts.

But unless anything has changed, only one player is eligible to be taken away from each team, so that helps.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:40 pm

I hadn't read it closely yet, but I thought in passing I had read that NMC players were required to be kept AND counted. You could ask a player to waive his NMC for purposes of exposing him...

Like I said, I didn't read it that closely yet...but my guess is that it will hinge on whether or not they will count Murray as a "pro"...i think we're keeping Fleury regardless if he's on the roster because we have to...

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:47 pm

From my (likely incorrect) understanding, Fleury's case is kinda whack because he has a NMC but only a limited NTC. He can't be sent to the AHL but he can be traded to like half the league.

Regardless of any of that jazz, I really dislike having an odd number of teams in the league.

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:47 pm

I still don't see Vegas being successful. Not at all.

Postby **columbia** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:55 pm

https://twitter.com/MarkMaddenX/status/ ... 4665831424

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:56 pm

Okay, that part I believe.

Postby **grunthy** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:03 pm

I still don't see Vegas being successful. Not at all.

With the casinos using tickets and boxes as perks to entice people to come, I think it will be successful, at least financially. Successful as in loyalty of fan base? Probably not.

Postby **columbia** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:04 pm

When is this team supposed to start existing? This Fall?

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:07 pm

GMs were told they would get a 12 month warning before an expansion draft were to take place. So, probably more like 17-18...

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:08 pm

From my (likely incorrect) understanding, Fleury's case is kinda whack because he has a NMC but only a limited NTC. He can't be sent to the AHL but he can be traded to like half the league.

Regardless of any of that jazz, I really dislike having an odd number of teams in the league.

Fleury's NMC is the only thing that matters for purposes of the expansion draft...

Postby **columbia** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:09 pm

From my (likely incorrect) understanding, Fleury's case is kinda whack because he has a NMC but only a limited NTC. He can't be sent to the AHL but he can be traded to like half the league.

Regardless of any of that jazz, I really dislike having an odd number of teams in the league.
Fleury's NMC is the only thing that matters for purposes of the expansion draft...

ie He's exempt?

Postby **llipgh2** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:15 pm

I still don't see Vegas being successful. Not at all.

With the casinos using tickets and boxes as perks to entice people to come, I think it will be successful, at least financially. Successful as in loyalty of fan base? Probably not.

I'm thinking the majority of people attending the games will be for the visiting teams.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:32 pm

From my (likely incorrect) understanding, Fleury's case is kinda whack because he has a NMC but only a limited NTC. He can't be sent to the AHL but he can be traded to like half the league.

Regardless of any of that jazz, I really dislike having an odd number of teams in the league.
Fleury's NMC is the only thing that matters for purposes of the expansion draft...
ie He's exempt?

My impression, as I said above with a quick glancing over the parameters, is that it's the "opposite" of what you say basically. He not only counts against our protected players list, but we have to keep him.