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Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:37 pm
by tifosi77
That sort of conflation of S7 and S8 as one big narrative monster aligns with what all my GOT friends have been saying. And wasn't it S7 where they no longer had GRRM source material to guide them?
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:29 am
by Troy Loney
That sort of conflation of S7 and S8 as one big narrative monster aligns with what all my GOT friends have been saying. And wasn't it S7 where they no longer had GRRM source material to guide them?
They were past the books in season 6 I think, maybe earlier, I forget.
The story collapsed when they condensed the character plots into on single linear narrative.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:55 am
by shafnutz05
The story collapsed when they condensed the character plots into on single linear narrative.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:15 am
by Gaucho
They should've called time on the show after season 6 and waited for Martin to finish the next book. I guess HBO didn't let them. *shrug*
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:34 am
by Dickie Dunn
It’s not like he’s actually working on the books. Could have had him just get more involved in the plotting and writing process for the show.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:59 am
by nocera
George RR deserves as much blame as D&D for the series derailment.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:06 am
by Gaucho
yep
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:34 pm
by shafnutz05
GRRM stopped caring about his magnum opus and more about his wallet years ago.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:49 am
by willeyeam
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:13 am
by nocera
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:50 pm
by Pavel Bure
Remember when Tyrion told different stories to each small council member about marrying off Cersei’s daughter to see who he could trust? Good times, good writing.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:02 am
by nocera
We just finished our first re-watching of the show since the finale. I had no interest, but the fiancé pushed for it so away we went. The good news: seasons 1-6 are still amazing. The obvious bad news: seasons 7 & 8 are not so amazing. The drop in quality is incredibly stark. When the series is binge watched, the last two seasons almost feel like a different show. The pacing changes dramatically, character traits quickly change for no other reason than to further plot, even the music changes. If they would've went 10 seasons, with 10 episodes each, they could've pulled off the exact same story without losing the quality they had established. As it stands, it's fine. I didn't hate it as much as most when it aired and I didn't hate it the second time either. It feels like a missed opportunity, though.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:06 am
by blackjack68
Incredibly “Stark”
I see what you did there
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:39 am
by Dickie Dunn
I read an article not too long ago that covered how the one year anniversary of the finale came and went without anyone giving a ****. Delved into how the final two seasons completely destroyed the IP, merchandise is clearance fodder, and how things like filming location tours and themed bars/restaurants almost immediately went belly up. GRRM will never finish the books and I doubt any spinoffs will move forward because it’s an expensive endeavor for a series that is now universally decried. I also did not go completely “my life is ruined!!!!!” like so much of the fan base did and think that missed opportunity is the best way to describe the final two seasons, but I can also never see myself rewatching the show. I know the painful blue balls that await so why bother?
The most amazing part of the final two seasons is how the laziness and ineptitude of Benioff and Weiss, combined with HBO (Casey Bloys) refusing to tell them to **** off and make proper length seasons or leave, killed a license to print money.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:47 am
by nocera
Source of the post I can also never see myself rewatching the show. I know the painful blue balls that await so why bother?
There were a few moments when we both looked at each other and said something like "well, this doesn't end up going anywhere" or "and they're going to make this dadhole king of the 6 kingdoms?" But on the whole, the journey far outweighed the disappointing destination. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it through again, especially the first 6 seasons.
God help me, but it made me want to revisit Lost.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:52 am
by Dickie Dunn
You’re a masochist
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:59 am
by NAN
Funny you brought this up.
I'm binging right now for the first time through. I watched the first 3 seasons when they came out, but then we got rid of HBO. Now I have HBO max and am watching it all the way through. I'm on Season 6 Episode 9 right now. And loving it.
But I am fully aware of the drop off season 7 and especially season 8. I'll be interested to see it as well.
Didn't they just announce a prequel series coming out though?
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:14 pm
by Dickie Dunn
They made a prequel pilot starting Naomi Watts but that was scrapped and will never see the light of day. They went with a straight to order series on a different prequel about House Targaryen, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if that falls through as well.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:35 pm
by shafnutz05
I read an article not too long ago that covered how the one year anniversary of the finale came and went without anyone giving a ****. Delved into how the final two seasons completely destroyed the IP, merchandise is clearance fodder, and how things like filming location tours and themed bars/restaurants almost immediately went belly up. GRRM will never finish the books and I doubt any spinoffs will move forward because it’s an expensive endeavor for a series that is now universally decried. I also did not go completely “my life is ruined!!!!!” like so much of the fan base did and think that missed opportunity is the best way to describe the final two seasons, but I can also never see myself rewatching the show. I know the painful blue balls that await so why bother?
The most amazing part of the final two seasons is how the laziness and ineptitude of Benioff and Weiss, combined with HBO (Casey Bloys) refusing to tell them to **** off and make proper length seasons or leave, killed a license to print money.
It really is remarkable how far that star fell over the final two seasons. The show honestly became a laughingstock.
This picture never ceases to amuse me with how appropriate it is:
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:40 pm
by nocera
Though I really do think season 6 is every bit as good as the previous seasons. It has one of the best sequences of the entire series.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:44 pm
by shafnutz05
Though I really do think season 6 is every bit as good as the previous seasons. It has one of the best sequences of the entire series.
The show hit its final peak in that episode. I remember being absolutely blown away by that whole beginning sequence, then Arya getting the Freys, Jon Snow being King in the North, his parentage in Bran's flashback, Daenerys headed to Westeros, etc. That was the last time the series was great.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:29 pm
by NAN
Though I really do think season 6 is every bit as good as the previous seasons. It has one of the best sequences of the entire series.
The show hit its final peak in that episode. I remember being absolutely blown away by that whole beginning sequence, then Arya getting the Freys, Jon Snow being King in the North, his parentage in Bran's flashback, Daenerys headed to Westeros, etc. That was the last time the series was great.
I'm on that episode right now. Going to watch tonight.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:36 am
by NAN
I'm 3 episodes into Season 7. Honestly it hasn't been too bad so far IMO.
Is there a point where the dropoff occurs? Or is it just slow and steady.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:04 pm
by Dickie Dunn
I'm 3 episodes into Season 7. Honestly it hasn't been too bad so far IMO.
Is there a point where the dropoff occurs? Or is it just slow and steady.
7 is better than 8. The main problems with 7 are the extremely rushed storytelling and pacing (which gets worse), convenient plot devices to keep **** moving forward, and then it all kind of falls apart with a fun but EXTREMELY DUMB 6th episode.
Game of Thrones Discussion
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:33 pm
by NAN
I just got done with episode 3 of season 8, the big battle with the dead. I honestly don't think it has been too bad (season 7 or 8). It's not as good as it was in earlier seasons, but I haven't thought it has been horrible as many described.
Maybe because I'm binge watching it and didn't wait 7 years to get to that point. But it hasn't been THAT bad. In fact the espisode leading up to the battle I though was good, just the tension and ominous feeling that something really bad was coming. And even the battle itself was decent.
I'm also a lot easier to please than others though too. I'm pretty simple when it comes to "artistic" things.
