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Postby Kane » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:47 am

Google emits Chrome 94 with 'Idle Detection' API to detect user inactivity amid opposition

It can be disabled here: chrome://settings/content/idleDetection

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:55 am

Yet another reason to leave Chrome for Edge.

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Postby Kane » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:01 am

Yet another reason to leave Chrome for Edge.
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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:02 am

Have you tried Edge Chromium? Seriously, since build 90 or so, it has surpassed Chrome in every way. Resource consumption, bugs, etc. It's our new default browser at work, and my #2 at home (still a Firefox guy).

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Postby Kane » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:05 am

I just use chrome on my work PC and Firefox at home. They don't even have Edge installed on our network nor is it available through our software center.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:13 am

That's disappointing. Even though we still allow Chrome to be installed on the physical side, I'm ripping it out of Citrix in my next image. It serves no purpose when Edge can do everything that it can do, only better.

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Postby faftorial » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:52 am

That's disappointing. Even though we still allow Chrome to be installed on the physical side, I'm ripping it out of Citrix in my next image. It serves no purpose when Edge can do everything that it can do, only better.
Them are fightin' words. Someone will complain.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:53 am

I'm sure they will, and I'll file them all in a central location - the rubbish bin. They have no say in the matter.

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Postby faftorial » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:00 am

Google emits Chrome 94 with 'Idle Detection' API to detect user inactivity amid opposition

It can be disabled here: chrome://settings/content/idleDetection
An email from this morning says we are moving to MS Viva. Never heard of it but here some rando's comment on it:
It's just more MS bull$#!+ spyware that lets your EMPLOYER spy on you under the guise of "HeLpiNg yOu wOrK bEtTeR." Google "productivity score" and you will learn more.

I uninstalled it from my Teams setup; however, being a non-admin, I am not sure if it actually uninstalled any metrics spying. I actually bought my own laptop for work and use my corporate-issued laptop ONLY for resources I cannot get from my own. I only use my corporate laptop for teams meetings because I refuse to install it on any of my devices. It's a slow-as-christmas resource hogging nightmare that I ABHOR with every fiber of my being. I don't use Office 365, One Drive, or anything else Microsoft. I even keep the microphone disabled unless I am in a meeting, and keep my camera disabled in the BIOS at all times because I have so little trust in MS spyware. Outside of a meeting, I don't see the need for teams. I have email and a telephone.

When things get back to normal and we start working from work again, I will be uninstalling Teams altogether. Coworkers can call, email, or WALK to my office if they want any questions answered. I am not chatting. CoLLaBoRaTiOn can eat a ... Give me an assignment and leave me the EFF alone to do it in peace!!!! Teams has done nothing for my workplace but turn it into one big hell of micromanagement.

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:17 am

Hah. Somebody that still uses Firefox is lecturing about browsers. :lol:

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:20 am

You mean the browser that's still more secure, faster, and consumes fewer resources than Chrome? Also the most (only?) customizable GUI.

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:22 am

Who the **** knows, it's Firefox. Lecture me on Opera too.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:25 am

I'm lost on what your issue is here. That Edge is no better than Chrome, or that I'm advocating for dropping Chrome in general?

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:38 am

Firefox hasn't been relevant since it lost its way about 10 years ago. The fact that a devout Firefox user wants to lecture about browser choice is funny in and of itself. That was the 'issue.'

On performance, I don't see a big gap between Chrome and Edge. I would probably prefer to run Edge as we do on our work machines. That said, MS's practices are sketchy at best (how they handle updates, force services on you, change settings I've explicitly set, etc.) I end up using Chrome at home for this reason. The work machines are pre-configured by policy and remove a lot (but not all) of those invasive practices.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:44 am

I prefer Firefox's GUI to the others, namely because I customize the CSS to look and feel the way I want it to. Once they disable that feature, I'll jump to Edge full time. As for performance, in our environment, Chrome consumes nearly 20% more RAM and CPU; policies and settings are identical between the two.

I'm sure that you know this, but Edge and Chrome use the exact same mechanism for updating. As for changes you've explicitly set, I could see that. MS does like to "recommend" settings, unless you preconfigure them via policy. Chrome is more invasive on the back end, though, and Edge gives you more privacy options (enabled by default, too).

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:53 am

My biggest issue with Chrome is, as you said, it's been memory-leaky for years and does not seem to have any interest in changing that.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:28 am

I **** on Microsoft a lot for how they handle things (looking at you, Teams devs), but one thing that has been very noticeable is how they handle Edge versus Chrome. In the last year, there have been half a dozen relatively invasive issues that plagued specific Chrome builds, all of which I had to quickly mitigate one way or another. Edge has avoided every single one of those issues. That has earned a lot of respect from me from an enterprise perspective.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:47 am

I came here for science and I get IT bs. thumbs down

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:50 am

:lol:

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Postby count2infinity » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:57 am

I came here for science and I get IT bs. thumbs down
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Postby Kane » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:35 pm

Have you tried Edge Chromium? Seriously, since build 90 or so, it has surpassed Chrome in every way. Resource consumption, bugs, etc. It's our new default browser at work, and my #2 at home (still a Firefox guy).
So, does Chromium mimic the look of Chrome or is it a different UI?. I'd like to get the resource hog that is chrome off of my home PC, but my wife insist on using it.

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Postby count2infinity » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:37 pm

Pretty sure the technology part is new and interesting technology... not details about which internet browser is better.

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