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Postby NailedPenguin » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:26 pm

So can someone explain whats going on with the Red*****? And I'm not talking the name change. Woke up this morning and it seemed like something big was about to break about pimps, and cheerleaders, and feds, then alot of "thats why Snyder jumped on the name change now, he knew this was coming down the pike." ..Then nothing as of this afternoon.

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Postby dodint » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:40 pm

"Kapri Bibbs and Jay Gruden apparently shared the same side piece. Bibbs was benched and his replacement missed a block that essentially ended Alex Smith’s career.”

Big, if true.

Also Snyder is linked to Epstein.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:46 pm

I just read that minority shareholders in the ownership group are looking to get out.

Have you ever heard of anyone trying to get out of NFL ownership of a marquee franchise en masse??

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Postby Morkle » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:49 pm

Sucks for Washington, but that team should be obliterated or just moved outright to another city. If the story is as big as the bribes stuff, just burn it to the ground and start somewhere else.

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Postby nocera » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:56 pm



Completely unconfirmed and non-verified source, but there you go. If this shitty little Twitter dude breaks a story this big, it'd be hilarious.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:06 pm

Listening to Pat McAfee's podcast right now, and he has an interesting theory that this might be coming to a head (for good reasons) because of Ron Rivera's influence. Like he showed up and saw all this garbage fire mess and was and was like, "Um..... no," and this is all part of an effort lead by him to right the ship.

He also got a text message during the show from a friend who's somehow connected to the WAS organization that he refused to read on air. (He said the stuff that's about to come out involves more than off-the-field issues, which might be relating to the thing dodint posted.)

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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:11 pm

Washington Dumpster Fire

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Postby Morkle » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:37 pm

Listening to Pat McAfee's podcast right now, and he has an interesting theory that this might be coming to a head (for good reasons) because of Ron Rivera's influence. Like he showed up and saw all this garbage fire mess and was and was like, "Um..... no," and this is all part of an effort lead by him to right the ship.

He also got a text message during the show from a friend who's somehow connected to the WAS organization that he refused to read on air. (He said the stuff that's about to come out involves more than off-the-field issues, which might be relating to the thing dodint posted.)
There was also that theory about that lineman banging Gruden's side piece, so he benched him and the player missed the block that led to Cousin's leg breaking.

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Postby NailedPenguin » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:52 pm

Listening to Pat McAfee's podcast right now, and he has an interesting theory that this might be coming to a head (for good reasons) because of Ron Rivera's influence. Like he showed up and saw all this garbage fire mess and was and was like, "Um..... no," and this is all part of an effort lead by him to right the ship.
That probably explains why Rivera is involved with coming up with the new name. It was never really clear why he of zero games coached would be consulted, must less in charge, but kind of makes sense now.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:17 pm

From dream job to nightmare

More than a dozen women allege sexual harassment and verbal abuse by former team employees at Redskins Park

Applegate is one of 15 former female Redskins employees who told The Washington Post they were sexually harassed during their time at the club. The other 14 women spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing a fear of litigation because some signed nondisclosure agreements with the team that threaten legal retribution if they speak negatively about the club. The team declined a request from The Post to release former female employees from these agreements so they could speak on the record without fear of legal reprisal. This story involved interviews with more than 40 current and former employees and a review of text messages and internal company documents.

Team owner Daniel Snyder declined several requests for an interview. Over the past week, as The Post presented detailed allegations and findings to the club, three team employees accused of improper behavior abruptly departed, including Larry Michael, the club’s longtime radio voice, and Alex Santos, the team’s director of pro personnel.

In a statement, the team said it had hired D.C. attorney Beth Wilkinson and her firm, Wilkinson Walsh, “to conduct a thorough independent review of this entire matter and help the team set new employee standards for the future.”

“The Washington Redskins football team takes issues of employee conduct seriously … While we do not speak to specific employee situations publicly, when new allegations of conduct are brought forward that are contrary to these policies, we address them promptly,” the team said.
The allegations raised by Applegate and others — running from 2006 to 2019 — span most of Snyder’s tenure as owner and fall into two categories: unwelcome overtures or comments of a sexual nature, and exhortations to wear revealing clothing and flirt with clients to close sales deals. Among the men accused of harassment and verbal abuse are three former members of Snyder’s inner circle and two longtime members of the personnel department:
  • Michael, senior vice president of content and “the voice of the Washington Redskins.” Seven former employees said Michael routinely discussed the physical appearance of female colleagues in sexual and disparaging overtones. In 2018, Michael was caught on a “hot mic” speaking about the attractiveness of a college-aged intern, according to six former employees who heard the recording. Michael declined an interview request and retired Wednesday.
  • Santos, the club’s director of pro personnel, was accused by six former employees and two reporters who covered the team of making inappropriate remarks about their bodies and asking them if they were romantically interested in him. In 2019, Santos was the subject of an internal investigation after Rhiannon Walker, a reporter for the Athletic, informed club management Santos had pinched her, told her she had “an ass like a wagon,” and repeatedly asked her to date him, Walker said in an interview with The Post. Nora Princiotti, a reporter for The Ringer who formerly covered the team, also said in an interview that she was harassed by Santos. Santos, who was fired this past week, declined to comment.
  • Richard Mann II, assistant director of pro personnel, who in one text message obtained by the The Post told a female employee he and his colleagues debated whether her breasts had been surgically enhanced and in another text message told another female employee to expect an “inappropriate hug … And don’t worry that will be a stapler in my pocket, nothing else.” Mann, who also was fired last week, declined to comment.
  • Dennis Greene, former president of business operations, implored female sales staff to wear low-cut blouses, tight skirts and flirt with wealthy suite holders, according to five former employees, including Applegate. Greene’s 17-year career with the club ended in 2018 amid a scandal over the revelation he had sold access to Redskins cheerleaders — including attendance at a bikini calendar photo shoot in Costa Rica — as part of premium suite packages. Greene declined to comment.
  • Mitch Gershman, former chief operating officer, who Applegate said routinely berated her for trivial problems such as printer malfunctions while also complimenting her body. Two other former female employees supported Applegate’s account of her sexual harassment and verbal abuse by Gershman, who left the team in 2015.
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Former women employees said the first few weeks at Redskins Park also often came with an informal, but invaluable, orientation administered privately by veteran female employees who warned them to avoid certain people and places, such as the staircase near the entrance to team headquarters.

Lined at the top with transparent plexiglass, the stairs descend from the lobby to the locker room and training area, and someone standing at the bottom can look up the skirt of a woman standing at the top.

One former female member of the executive staff learned this lesson early in her tenure, she said, when she looked down to see a male trainer, two floors down, staring right back up, walking step for step with her.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:20 pm

It was the most miserable experience of my life. And we all tolerated it, because we knew if we complained — and they reminded us of this — there were 1,000 people out there who would take our job in a heartbeat.
That rings true from a lot of my friends' experiences in the entertainment industry. People see it as a dream gig, and don't want to be a 'trouble maker' and so don't want to give anyone a reason to shoo them out the door.

Also..... there's none of the spicier stuff regarding coaches and on-field shenanigans and off-field skulduggery. So I'm wondering if this is one of a series of stories about the Washington [Name TBD].

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:28 pm

One more bit of fun.......
Team owner Daniel Snyder declined several requests for an interview. Over the past week, as The Post presented detailed allegations and findings to the club, three team employees accused of improper behavior abruptly departed, including Larry Michael, the club’s longtime radio voice, and Alex Santos, the team’s director of pro personnel.
That means the announcement that they are changing the name came after they were contacted by the Post re these accusations. So sort of alters the impression of that move by the team.

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Postby mikey » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:54 pm

The NFL is historically impenetrable in this realm...let's see how much of a detonation this ends up being...

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:09 pm

Whatever it takes for Snyder to go.

If this link is accurate on what the Post story says I'm skeptical that it's enough to accomplish such a thing, damn it

https://brobible.com/sports/article/was ... legations/

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Postby MWB » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:42 pm

Snyder should by ousted by the NFL.

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Postby dodint » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:34 am

Listening to Pat McAfee's podcast right now, and he has an interesting theory that this might be coming to a head (for good reasons) because of Ron Rivera's influence. Like he showed up and saw all this garbage fire mess and was and was like, "Um..... no," and this is all part of an effort lead by him to right the ship.

He also got a text message during the show from a friend who's somehow connected to the WAS organization that he refused to read on air. (He said the stuff that's about to come out involves more than off-the-field issues, which might be relating to the thing dodint posted.)
There was also that theory about that lineman banging Gruden's side piece, so he benched him and the player missed the block that led to Cousin's leg breaking.
So Morkle. :lol:

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Postby shafnutz05 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am

So it sounds like all of the sensational stuff was either complete speculation, or at the very least not considered proven by WaPo. The story that's out isn't great, but it doesn't move the needle like "Gruden/Snyder cocaine sex parties" for me. Pretty garden-variety shitty sexual harassment stuff.

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Postby Morkle » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:54 am

Listening to Pat McAfee's podcast right now, and he has an interesting theory that this might be coming to a head (for good reasons) because of Ron Rivera's influence. Like he showed up and saw all this garbage fire mess and was and was like, "Um..... no," and this is all part of an effort lead by him to right the ship.

He also got a text message during the show from a friend who's somehow connected to the WAS organization that he refused to read on air. (He said the stuff that's about to come out involves more than off-the-field issues, which might be relating to the thing dodint posted.)
There was also that theory about that lineman banging Gruden's side piece, so he benched him and the player missed the block that led to Cousin's leg breaking.
So Morkle. :lol:
No idea, there was an actual twitter post above from the guy that said it.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:58 am

That was a weird case of deja vu for me - the same exact thing happened in a group text yesterday. I sent the tweet and then two hours later someone else texted the quote from the tweet

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Postby mikey » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:09 am

" cocaine sex parties"
What's the issue...?

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Postby meow » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:25 am

" cocaine sex parties"
What's the issue...?
What's the issue? What's the issue?! The got dang issue is that I wasn't invited

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Postby NAN » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:39 am

While obviously this is serious and should be dealt with appropriately, the build up to the report vs what came out reminds me of the DK thing a few years ago by deadspin.

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