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Postby mikey » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:04 pm

That's not my opinion...

Edit: More specifically, that's not necessarily the topic of conversation, in my opinion, either...

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:16 am

Next up, Schefter:


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Postby willeyeam » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:06 am

Meh

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Postby Morkle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:24 am

I mean Schefter is a reporter who gets scoops from anyone and everyone in the NFL, he's not reporting life and death stuff, this really isn't a huge deal.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:07 am

“really, really bad”?

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Postby Morkle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:25 am

Oh that person wrote for Deadspin, so of course it's really really bad.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:28 am

this seems like bigger news



NFL is protecting Dan Snyder with its life

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Postby blackjack68 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:29 am

They do seem to circle the wagons well for their own.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:31 am

How's Deshaun Watson's investigation going?

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Postby Morkle » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:52 am

My assumption is that owners don't want to drag Dan Snyder because Dan Snyder has dirt on the owners, etc.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:57 am

on r/NFL there are a few stories about different groups demanding the release of the full investigation (NFLPA, cheerleaders, lawyers representing former WFT employees). There's no chance the NFL is going to release them unless forced

I guess my question is...the WFT cheerleaders seem to have a pretty straightforward lawsuit to make. It's pretty widely believed that they were "trafficked" (transported internationally, had their passports taken away, had photos of them taken and released without their consent). Albeit I'm not a lawyer so some of this is over my head, but I'm not sure why the cheerleaders/lawyers representing them haven't sued the NFL/WFT and I feel like that's a pretty good vector into getting this **** actually released (I guess maybe they signed NDAs or something)

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Postby genoscoif » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:07 am

They do seem to circle the wagons well for their own.
That's what makes the Gruden stuff smell funny IMO. It almost comes off as a 'see how transparent we're being' move while, you know, hiding some potentially horrific information.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:14 am

They do seem to circle the wagons well for their own.
That's what makes the Gruden stuff smell funny IMO. It almost comes off as a 'see how transparent we're being' move while, you know, hiding some potentially horrific information.
Saw speculation from Raiders fans that the team was onboard with the shenanigans. Got them out of the most ridiculous coach contract in history.

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Postby mikey » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:28 pm

Yeah, that's my thought too...

For a coach that moves the needle in a big way, like BB, I feel like there's no chance this happens to him...I imagine the Raiders and the Patriots are both grimy organizations in their own way...or maybe a collective way, who knows...but, while wild speculation is set to [ON], I might as well indulge...

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:08 pm

If this was meant as a 'targeted leak' to establish some sort of transparency, then it was amateurish and ill-considered. Most of the media takes I've seen include some variation of "Gruden was operating in a perceived safe space", so if there are not any similar outings from the 650,000 other emails that are part of the investigation then I'll cry foul.

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Postby nocera » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:59 pm



I don’t know if he practiced this but damn what an answer.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:33 pm

Excellent

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:43 pm

Seems like a good dude. And not a piece of **** like Gruden.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:47 pm

Very heartfelt, but I'm sure the Chargers PR staff prepped him before that media availability. Cynical? Yes. But that's the age we live in.

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Postby dodint » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:49 pm

That is pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.

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Postby willeyeam » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:58 pm

Okay it was good. But I laughed when he started off with "if you're a person of color, a gender.."

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:03 pm

So many of these Gruden emails were also included in a federal court filing over the summer. Snyder is suing an Indian media company for defamation, and DS was trying to compel evidentiary discovery of communications Bruce Allen had privately with the media company, and BA was resisting. (He's basically claiming BA was the anon source for the alleged defamatory stories) The emails that Snyder entered as exhibits (which I guess are legally WFT property) match the WSJ and NYT reports, but are heavily redacted........ except for one (apparently mistaken) instance where 'ESPN Personality' is just john.gruden@yahoo.com (or whatever).

I think all of this is hilarious and couldn't be happening to a more deserving bunch. But it also opens up the possibility that the League was not the source of the leak.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:50 pm

I’m still amazed that the Chargers were able to hire someone that looks just like Philip Rivers. The first time I saw Staley on the sidelines I thought it was Rivers

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Postby shmenguin » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:57 pm

Very heartfelt, but I'm sure the Chargers PR staff prepped him before that media availability. Cynical? Yes. But that's the age we live in.
As a person of gender, I disagree. I think those are his own thoughts.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:10 pm

Ermagerd this harassment thing again? Quick pull the trigger on that Sean Taylor number retirement thingy we have in the can.

Also pleeeeeeease force Snyder to sell.

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