Motorsports (non-NASCAR)

[Shyster]

"You'll get more benefit from F1 than F1 will get from you" -- Alpine has been in F1 for a few years now, and I honestly don't know what it is. Is it a Renault brand? Is it a completely separate thing? I have no idea.

Based off the team's performance in Bahrain, I'd say it's a bag of dog s**t.

Seriously, Alpine might be in the running with Toyota for "most pathetic works team from a major auto manufacturer in the 21st century."

[tifosi77]

I agree that the cost cap and in-season testing restrictions are anathema to what I've always understood Formula One was supposed to be.

But the rules are the same for everybody. It's not the responsibility of the sport to help make teams competitive. Cleaning up airflow isn't going to close the gap to a team that's building cars that get 1km up the road and start sandbagging. Copying? Red Bull is copying Merc's engine cover design from last year.... that Merc itself couldn't make work after the failed no-pod concept. It's not the governing body's responsibility to help teams do their jobs properly.

[tifosi77]

Toyota, such a funny thing. They had more actual cash on hand - like, in a checking account - than all of the teams at the time were spending on F1 combined. Their resources were, in practical terms, limitless. If they had possessed even a single clue, it's possible they would still be willing today. lol

[dodint]

[Trip McNeely]

So Newey out at Red Bull and Fred Vasseur stopping in London on the way to Miami….i can only get so excited

[tifosi77]

Watched that Senna clip last night. It's......... I don't know how I feel about it. They certainly know how to set the hook in Senna fans like me, but it also feels very.................................................. weird. It's like a multi-tiered Uncanny Valley.

[tifosi77]

Also, the Newey thing is really weird following on the heels of the Horner allegations earlier this year.

[CBear3]

RBR is imploding and its fun to see how the cool kids when they first entered became uptight corporate sellouts and are now snapping at each others necks.

And yes, I'm not sure how you top the Senna documentary but the actor they've got portraying Ayrton is definitely in the Valley. The one glimpse of Ron Dennis I saw though was spot on enough I had to do a double take.

[dodint]

Also, the Newey thing is really weird following on the heels of the Horner allegations earlier this year.

Jos Verstappen was the poison pill at RBR. An incredibly terrible person doing his worst.