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Postby Shyster » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:41 pm

With Red Bull taking over the Honda engine program and bringing it in-house, I be willing to bet there's an unofficial "Your name on this engine in exchange for $$$$" sign out front of the factory at Milton Keynes. It would be a cheaper way for the WV group or some other company to get into F1 racing by just providing money and support to RB instead of building a new engine program from scratch. Honda demonstrated that a startup program is not a quick or easy thing.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:20 am

VW is not building a 'Honda' engine. It sounds more like a Ford/Cosworth situation, where Costin and Duckworth were both former Lotus engineers. Red Bull is just keeping it all in-house.

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Postby relantel » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:19 pm

I watched the end of the Indycar race on Sunday that NBCSN had on before NASCAR coverage from Nashville. Newgarden had the race. Then late yellow, and failure on the restart with 2 to go. Not even sure if he finished on the lead lap.

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:42 am

Been watching a little F1 on the weekends, it's fun. Does Verstappen always just beat the piss out of everyone?

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Postby MR25 » Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:39 am

Verstappen winning is a new development this year. Used to be Hamilton and Bottas 1-2 for like... 5 years

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Postby tifosi77 » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:14 am

Mercedes has won every championship in the V6 turbo hybrid era, which started in 2014. Hamilton has won something like 300 races (it feels like), and the second winningest driver of the era was a Mercedes driver who retired 5 years ago. Crash Musthappen's recent success is a very new development.

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Postby Shyster » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:25 pm

Time for another reminder of tifosi's poor prognostication skills when he posted this back in 2017:
But this is not that same Honda. We're two-and-a-half decades on since Soichiro Honda's passing, and the racing culture he imbued within the company just isn't there today. The constructor entry they had in F1 about ten years ago is more indicative of the way I think this engine program will go.
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Postby tifosi77 » Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:36 pm

Did we not just a week ago have a discussion about Honda's recent success is down to Red Bull taking over development?

*looks a few posts up on this same page*

Of yeah, there it is. Honda's turn around is because they're less involved.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:52 pm

I get your point but I don’t really associate RBs gains this year because of significant improvements to the engine. The Honda engine was pretty awesome last year too. And Mcclaren has a rocket down the straights this year using a Mercedes engine

All the improvements seem to be directly related to the restrictions on low rake cars. Mercedes and Aston Martin had the lowest rakes out of all the F1 teams and they are the two teams that have significantly took a step back this year. The cars are so much harder on the tires now and the Mercedes engines aren’t good enough to overcome that deficit. I don’t even know if RB could even beat Mclaren in a straight line drag race. But the cars are just so much gentler on the tires. The only race all year RB lost due to tires was I believe the first race of the year…and that was all because Horner got outsmarted and Mercedes two stopped Hamilton to the win

Edit: to add, the flex wing is also helping Red Bull (as well as Ferrari)

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Postby mac5155 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:22 pm

Amazing NHRA show at the Bandimere speedway outside of Denver. Took 2 buddies who were first time NHRA guys. It was awesome

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Postby dodint » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:29 pm

The engineering that goes into those cars is crazy. Big presence, too.

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Postby mac5155 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:23 am

And even more so in Denvers thin air.

Well be in Reading in September. I love NHRA cars.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:41 pm

@BigMck Lives out in the eastern LA exurbs and he keeps trying to get me out to NHRA at Pacoima, but every year there always seems to be a scheduling conflict. I definitely want to see it at least once before I check out, the cars just seem completely bonkers. They're like the world's greatest uni-taskers. lol

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:41 pm

Also.............. what are the early thoughts on sprint race quali? I was initially skeptical, but after seeing it I am a fan.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:02 pm

Wow!



This is great stuff.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:09 pm

I turned the race on twenty minutes in. That was insanely exciting. Not how I normally recall recent F1 races. Anyone else catch it?

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Postby dodint » Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:25 pm

If Ocon won it is a greatly atypical race.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:29 pm

I turned the race on twenty minutes in. That was insanely exciting. Not how I normally recall recent F1 races. Anyone else catch it?
Yea I watched it beginning to end. It was awesome. The first lap spoiled it a bit but Alonso’s defense was f’ing awesome. Ocon didn’t do anything special, it was more of just lucking into that spot and the stars aligning. Like Latifi was in third for a while and just held up all the faster cars which gave ocon the gap

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:36 pm

I watched my first F1 race when I was 7 years old, and I cannot recall ever seeing a start with one single car on the grid. Valtteri Bottas can f**k straight off.

Also, while the spectacle and technical marvel of F1 remains compelling to me, despite my better instincts, disqualifying a driver over 0.7 liters of fuel is one of the reasons why people sour on the sport. Especially when it's a driver who finishes on the podium, who fans watch celebrating the result with champagne and whatnot. I get that all teams/drivers are competing to the same rules and that all the other cars were able to offer a 1 liter sample of fuel post-race. I just really don't like it when the result we all saw with our eyes isn't the result on paper. It's one thing if the penalty is meted out during the grand prix (like a time penalty, so you know when cars cross the line the final order will be shifted). But if it's entirely down to post-race scrutineering...... man, that just sucks.

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Postby dodint » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:45 pm

One of the things I think is shitty about that particular rule is the sample has to be taken manually with a hand pump. If AM were allowed to turn the car on and use the fuel pump to provide the sample, you know, how I can do it with my piece of junk amateur race car, they could likely provide the sample no problem. It's stupid.

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Postby dodint » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:29 pm

I went to competition school and got my road racing license this weekend. The school wasn't difficult, just had to endure the heat. Wearing the fire suit, gloves, head sock, racing shoes, and helmet while sitting in a matte black racing car where the temperature on the dash is 108F was a test of patience.

Now the only thing left to do is to get my own car together.

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Postby dodint » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:49 pm



Looks like more of a puff piece, but whatever, inject it right into my veins.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:55 pm

Yeah, we just watched the trailer the other day. I was never a Schmi fan, so his success with Ferrari was always kind of a good-bad thing for me. Watching the trailer made me unexpectedly nostalgic.

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Postby dodint » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:14 pm

I recently read all of Steve Matchett's books and MS obviously features in them a good bit. Will be neat to put some pictures with the stories.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:45 pm

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