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Postby CBear3 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:02 pm

The porpoising on the new cars is pretty amazing

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Postby Shyster » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:21 pm

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Postby Shyster » Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:31 pm

Russian GP off the schedule, for now.

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Postby Shyster » Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:28 pm

Motorsport UK will refuse to recognize licences of competitors from the Russian federation until further notice. No Russian/Belarusian-licensed teams, drivers, or officials may enter or participate in races in the UK, and no Russian/Belarusian national symbols, colors, or flags may be displayed at UK races. That means Mazespin cannot compete in the British GP, even if he were still a Haas driver at that point.

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Postby CBear3 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:42 pm

My money's on Kvyatt getting that sea...oh.

That's a bad solution. That Mazespin will lose his ride because of funding is no big deal. It's not like the penalties are pointed at a dude who just drives a car for a living, it's collateral damage. But flat out black balling any participant because of their birth place doesn't seem kosher.

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Postby Shyster » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:03 pm

I'm not sure how many other Russian drivers this impacts. But for Mazespin, he's literally the kid of one of Putin's buddies, who also counts among the ranks of "oligarchs" that controls Russia. A ban on Mazespin is really a sanction on his dad.

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Postby dodint » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:05 pm

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(Stripping off the Uralkali branding from the Haas equipment)

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:09 pm

I wonder if this will give the recent Andretti thing any traction. Instead of fielding a new entry, and securing the approvals of all 10 existing teams, he could just buy Gene Haas' seat at the table. (Not sure how many entities have to approve of that. But even if all entrants have to agree, so long as they aren't diluting the pot of money by dividing it up among more teams they're probably more likely to approve a transfer of ownership.)

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Postby Trip McNeely » Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:55 pm

I wonder if this will give the recent Andretti thing any traction. Instead of fielding a new entry, and securing the approvals of all 10 existing teams, he could just buy Gene Haas' seat at the table. (Not sure how many entities have to approve of that. But even if all entrants have to agree, so long as they aren't diluting the pot of money by dividing it up among more teams they're probably more likely to approve a transfer of ownership.)
I think it absolutely does. Andretti could partner with haas and then slowly take over…which seemed to be the plan of Nikita’s dad anyways

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:50 pm

Russian GP off the schedule, for now.
Formula One terminates Russian Grand Prix contract
Formula One has confirmed it has terminated its contract with the promoter of the Russian Grand Prix, meaning the sport has no plans to hold a race in the country in the future.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:30 pm

Mazespin given the boot. There are conflicting reports as to whether the replacement is Pietro Fittipaldi or Antonio Giovinazzi.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:34 pm

Mazespin given the boot. There are conflicting reports as to whether the replacement is Pietro Fittipaldi or Antonio Giovinazzi.
I don’t like the idea of targeting athletes for being Russian … but I don’t mind this. He only had his seat because of his rich dad. He also has issues off tree track. Plus, Fittipaldi is sort of American.

Now, just bring in Andretti to replace Uralkali as the money behind the operation and Andretti won’t have to create his own team

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Postby dodint » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:48 pm

Took a war to fix that particular glitch. Pity.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:26 pm

So there’s rumor that Mercedes is going to show up with a car basically devoid of sidepods all together. That’s just mind boggling to me.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:47 pm

Merc's cooling rads are already up in the fairing around the engine intake/snorkel thing, right. So technically they just need to accommodate the side impact crash structure. I think I saw Alpine (?) is also considering a similar revision.

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Postby dodint » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:41 am

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:54 am

Yea that’s insane. Mercedes engineers are something else. Hopefully they aren’t so far ahead that it becomes 2020 again

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:55 am

Different commentators have been saying that the 2022 rules have been crafted with an eye towards enforcement against developments that contravene the 'intent' of the regs more than ever before. So the Brawn double diffuser would've been banned in 2009, for example (which is a notion that carries some richly ironic weight). I would hope replacing a side pod with an actual goddamned wing falls under this category. Swapping out body work with aerodynamic devices sorta isn't what I had in mind here.

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Postby dodint » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:03 am

I hope Mercedes wins by a billion points and Mercedes is the motorsport equivalent of a blood enemy to me.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:03 am

Different commentators have been saying that the 2022 rules have been crafted with an eye towards enforcement against developments that contravene the 'intent' of the regs more than ever before. So the Brawn double diffuser would've been banned in 2009, for example (which is a notion that carries some richly ironic weight). I would hope replacing a side pod with an actual goddamned wing falls under this category. Swapping out body work with aerodynamic devices sorta isn't what I had in mind here.
Yea I thought mirrors weren’t ever supposed to have aerodynamic qualities. And they turned the mirror into a wing.

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Postby CBear3 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:09 am

The mirrors don't. What they're mounted to does, just like a sidepod is sculpted for aerodynamics.
It'll be an interesting decision, it's basically a barge board which was supposed to be outlawed.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:14 am

The mirrors don't. What they're mounted to does, just like a sidepod is sculpted for aerodynamics.
It'll be an interesting decision, it's basically a barge board which was supposed to be outlawed.
Yea I don’t see anyway that they are going to be able to continue with this exact design.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:36 am

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If they're going to call it a mirror mount it should end where the mirror is mounted and not extend further out into the airflow.

I hope Merc runs it pending FIA and World Council review, and they end up retroactively DQd from like the first 5 races or something. I wanna be clear, I'm not against the idea of a sidepod-less car..... but replacing the sidepod with aero bits that the regs were overhauled to get rid of isn't cricket.

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Postby CBear3 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:48 am

Second picture. It aligns perfectly to the sidepod bulge. I don't see it running afoul of the regs if they extend it back into the sidepod right there. They could also mount the mirror off the outside edge as opposed to the inner and it'd still keep the same length.
I don't see how the various flow diverters on top fit the spirit of the regs though.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:50 am

That’s a barge board if there’s ever been a barge board

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