Some of them will still be working the occasional PPV when they are 60. Looking your way, HHH.60. Another wrestler from our youth gone way too soon. As bad as current WWE is, at least it seems like a much safer environment than even 10-20 years ago. I don't think we'll see the current guys drop as young.
Also if there's one tweet that DIDN'T need a catchphrase hashtag...
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Hell R. Truth is 48. MVP is 47. AJ Styles is 43. These guys are training better and taking care of themselves in a way that the previous era stars never did.Some of them will still be working the occasional PPV when they are 60. Looking your way, HHH.60. Another wrestler from our youth gone way too soon. As bad as current WWE is, at least it seems like a much safer environment than even 10-20 years ago. I don't think we'll see the current guys drop as young.
Also if there's one tweet that DIDN'T need a catchphrase hashtag...
Hulk Hogan was 42 when he went to WCW and WWF aired those Billionaire Ted/Huckster skits.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
I tend to think that way too, the stars of today are so physically refined from both drugs and personal care, I can't imagine these guys are going to drop dead in their 50-60s for the majority of them.
90's and prior, it was the wild west, and was known the bigger you are, the more money you make. Now, it doesn't appear to be that way.
90's and prior, it was the wild west, and was known the bigger you are, the more money you make. Now, it doesn't appear to be that way.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
This somehow showed up when I was looking for stuff involving Hogan going to WCW.Hell R. Truth is 48. MVP is 47. AJ Styles is 43. These guys are training better and taking care of themselves in a way that the previous era stars never did.Some of them will still be working the occasional PPV when they are 60. Looking your way, HHH.60. Another wrestler from our youth gone way too soon. As bad as current WWE is, at least it seems like a much safer environment than even 10-20 years ago. I don't think we'll see the current guys drop as young.
Also if there's one tweet that DIDN'T need a catchphrase hashtag...
Hulk Hogan was 42 when he went to WCW and WWF aired those Billionaire Ted/Huckster skits.
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2011/ ... ker-543009
I knew he turned down the Foreman Grill, but I didn't know he turned it down because he endorsed the Hulkamania Meatball Maker?Worthington says, "He gave me some investment advice because his manager said to him, 'You should get into these things, kitchen appliances, put your name on something'.
"The Hulk said, 'Well, what have you got?' The manager said, 'Well, I've got this meatball maker... It pounds the meatballs when you (clench arm muscles and press fists together). The Hulk went, 'That's fantastic, I want the Hulkamania Meatball Maker!'
"The manager goes, 'What about the other thing (investment opportunity)?' He goes, 'Ah, give that to your other client.' The other client turned out to be George Foreman, it was the grill! So George Foreman's made $300 billion and how many people own a Hulkamania Meatball Maker?"
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
That would be Pastamania.
I've heard that Foreman Grill story before and I think it's typical Hogan bullshit. He knows how to tell a good story. The story of endorsing pasta and it being **** isn't a good story. Add in that he turned down the Foreman for Pastamania and it's a fantastic story.
Just like it isn't a great story that Mania 3 was planned out exactly and everybody knew he was going to slam Andre for the win. But if you say that nobody was sure what Andre would do and Andre called the slam in the ring, well then you got something. Hogan is a carny.
I've heard that Foreman Grill story before and I think it's typical Hogan bullshit. He knows how to tell a good story. The story of endorsing pasta and it being **** isn't a good story. Add in that he turned down the Foreman for Pastamania and it's a fantastic story.
Just like it isn't a great story that Mania 3 was planned out exactly and everybody knew he was going to slam Andre for the win. But if you say that nobody was sure what Andre would do and Andre called the slam in the ring, well then you got something. Hogan is a carny.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
What, you mean the guy who was asked by Lars to be the bass player for Metallica has a tendency of stretching a story? More on this later.
I knew about Pastamania, but the way that is written makes it sound like there was a separate meatball-making device. Almost like it was an attempt at The Ultimate Male making The Ultimate Meatball.
(sorry, I couldn't pass that up)
Hogan isn't one to just stretch the truth, he's the type to make his own version of it. Like the time that he said that Elvis would watch him wrestle in Memphis. That's a great one to have on your resume, except The King died in 1977 and Hogan didn't start wrestling in Memphis until 1979. Even on the unlikely chance that Elvis caught him while he was still up and coming, Hogan didn't debut in CWF until August 10, 1977 against the Brian Blair. Elvis was in Memphis at that time and died a week later.
I'm gonna spoiler this, only because the list is rather large, brother.
I knew about Pastamania, but the way that is written makes it sound like there was a separate meatball-making device. Almost like it was an attempt at The Ultimate Male making The Ultimate Meatball.
(sorry, I couldn't pass that up)
Hogan isn't one to just stretch the truth, he's the type to make his own version of it. Like the time that he said that Elvis would watch him wrestle in Memphis. That's a great one to have on your resume, except The King died in 1977 and Hogan didn't start wrestling in Memphis until 1979. Even on the unlikely chance that Elvis caught him while he was still up and coming, Hogan didn't debut in CWF until August 10, 1977 against the Brian Blair. Elvis was in Memphis at that time and died a week later.
I'm gonna spoiler this, only because the list is rather large, brother.
-
- Posts: 50606
- Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:27 pm
- Location: A moron or a fascist...but not both.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
This is one of my favorite segments of all time.
It's just perfect. Lawler and JR's commentary throughout made it even better.
It's just perfect. Lawler and JR's commentary throughout made it even better.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
I've been going through and chronologically watching WWE PPVs. 95 was rough, obviously, but I thought 96 was even worse. It's tough watching Savio Vega vs Justin Bradshaw in a strap match knowing WCW was kicking ass and the NWO had just formed.
I'm halfway though 97, and holy **** what a year. 1997 WWF is awesome. The Hart Foundation forms, Stone Cold gets red hot, Undertaker's storyline with Paul Bearer/Kane, the Mankind/HHH feud, and later in the year DX forms. It might be my favorite year in the WWF. It's this awesome transition period between New Gen and full out Attitude Era.
I'm halfway though 97, and holy **** what a year. 1997 WWF is awesome. The Hart Foundation forms, Stone Cold gets red hot, Undertaker's storyline with Paul Bearer/Kane, the Mankind/HHH feud, and later in the year DX forms. It might be my favorite year in the WWF. It's this awesome transition period between New Gen and full out Attitude Era.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
22 years ago today...
Without playing the video, I can still hear that bedpan. Don't worry, I have it set so you only have to wait a second for it.
Without playing the video, I can still hear that bedpan. Don't worry, I have it set so you only have to wait a second for it.
-
- Posts: 50606
- Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:27 pm
- Location: A moron or a fascist...but not both.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Man, they don't make vignettes like this anymore.22 years ago today...
Without playing the video, I can still hear that bedpan. Don't worry, I have it set so you only have to wait a second for it.
-
- Posts: 50606
- Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:27 pm
- Location: A moron or a fascist...but not both.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Mean Gene holding his laughter in is so good.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
The majority of wrestlers from the golden era were absolute **** in the ring and on the mic. I do love Gene breaking though. There's a charm to golden era stuff where it feels very wild west/run and gun. That stuff would never happen in modern day WWE.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Agreed. If somebody botched a promo that badly today, they'd be off TV for months or jobbing out to No Way Jose.
That promo was so bad that it made Jumpin Jeff Farmer look like Ric Flair by comparison.
That promo was so bad that it made Jumpin Jeff Farmer look like Ric Flair by comparison.
-
- Posts: 50606
- Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:27 pm
- Location: A moron or a fascist...but not both.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Couldn't agree more. Honestly, it must have been hard for Gene; he had a great rapport with the guys by all accounts but at the same time I can see someone like Patera losing his mind at him for corpsing.The majority of wrestlers from the golden era were absolute **** in the ring and on the mic. I do love Gene breaking though. There's a charm to golden era stuff where it feels very wild west/run and gun. That stuff would never happen in modern day WWE.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
That promo was so bad that it made Jumpin Jeff Farmer look like Ric Flair by comparison.
-
- Posts: 35319
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:50 am
- Location: "Order is the only possibility of rest." -- Wendell Berry
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Been binge watching the dark side of the ring episodes and I got to go to a ECW taping in high school and it was every bit as real as it looks. It was insane.
Watching the New Jack episode right now.
Watching the New Jack episode right now.
-
- Posts: 5538
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:54 pm
- Location: :scared:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Awesome. The good/bad news is that Dark Side of the Ring still has a lot of horrible professional wrestling stories to cover.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
10 minutes.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
She probably knew she was fired before she sent out that tweet. I doubt that’s what caused it. Doesn’t look good though.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Yeah, you're probably right.
Wasn't she also one of the wrestlers who was pissed about being more or less forced to shut down her Twitch account, only to create an OnlyFans account a few days later?
Or am I confusing her with someone else?
Wasn't she also one of the wrestlers who was pissed about being more or less forced to shut down her Twitch account, only to create an OnlyFans account a few days later?
Or am I confusing her with someone else?
-
- Posts: 50606
- Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:27 pm
- Location: A moron or a fascist...but not both.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
I just watched the video of Deangelo Williams briefly wrestling for Impact a few years ago... It was damned impressive. Meltzer said that he had legit potential to be a great wrestler and was a natural.
-
- Posts: 7172
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:24 pm
- Location: "Hey, who needs hockey? Didn't the Steelers just win the Super Bowl?"
- Contact:
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
From another board via PWinsider.comShe probably knew she was fired before she sent out that tweet. I doubt that’s what caused it. Doesn’t look good though.
Based on the unionization comment, it would appear the major factor in Vega's release was WWE's third-party edict as she was in the top percentile of Twitch streamers. One would think that given she had built up a nice side business for herself, she wasn't going to be thrilled to let it be absorbed into her WWE deal for a fraction of the revenue. Vega was one of several who recently announced she was going to suspend her streaming until further notice. It would appear push came to shove and that led to WWE releasing her.
The unionization comment was obviously in reference to the fact that WWE talents are technically independent contractors but were being ordered to hand over their Cameo, Twitch, etc. accounts in favor of the company working directly with those entities. As we noted several days ago, WWE is launching its own in-house Talent Management end to oversee such relationships.
One would think Vega would be resuming streams relatively soon. She also recently launched an OnlyFans.com account at OnlyFans. That account notes that the page features no nudity and appears to mostly showcase her cosplay outfits.
Multiple WWE sources have confirmed to PWInsider.com that today's release of Zelina Vega was fallout from last month's edict that talents drop their relationships with third party entities such as Twitch, Cameo, etc. in favor of World Wrestling Entertainment spearheading those relationships and fielding talents out as part of their contractual duties.
PWInsider.com is told that Vega was informed that she was being released before tonight's Smackdown taping. Several minutes before her release was announced, Vega tweeted that she supported unionization, obviously in reference to WWE requiring talents to acquiese control of their Twitch, etc. accounts. WWE star Paige had made similar comments in recent weeks on social media with Vega responding them in a positive way.
As we noted earlier, Vega would be under the traditional 90 day non-compete window, which would keep her from working televised promotions through mid-February 2021.
WWE sources indicated that Vega had been extremely vocal about maintaining her Twitch account after the edict had been handed down. That lead to some WWE talents who reached out to PWInsider.com tonight wondering if she had been released to "send a message" to everyone else to make sure they follow the company's requests regarding third-party entities. Obviously, WWE is not going to confirm or deny that.
Vega had continued her Twitch streams until announcing she was suspending them on 10/30. That would be the day after a number of talents, including AJ Styles and Xavier Woods, had traveled to Stamford, CT to meet personally with Vince McMahon about the third-party edict but obviously failed to change McMahon's mind.
Vega has already written online that she will be returning to streaming on Twitch, likely under her former ring name, Thea Trinidad.
She was on Twitch Saturday night
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
I think her and Paige are going to have a rude awakening regarding Twitch. Firstly, if they're not WWE employees, does anybody really care to watch them react to YouTube videos? I suppose I shouldn't underestimate the power of thirsty bois but how long will that last?
More importantly, a reddit user pointed out that out of Vega's 15k subs, 14k of them are gifted. Meaning, a vast majority of those gifted subs will expire in 30 days. Paige had 20k subs and she recently dropped down to 5k because her gifted subs expired. I don't think Twitch is the cash cow that they believe it to be.
Now, WWE is incredibly stupid and short-sighted by forcing their stars off of these platforms. It's an opportunity to bring new eyes to their product, hype up WWE shows on a different platform, put some money in their performer's pockets while also expanding their audience. But Vince is gonna Vince.
More importantly, a reddit user pointed out that out of Vega's 15k subs, 14k of them are gifted. Meaning, a vast majority of those gifted subs will expire in 30 days. Paige had 20k subs and she recently dropped down to 5k because her gifted subs expired. I don't think Twitch is the cash cow that they believe it to be.
Now, WWE is incredibly stupid and short-sighted by forcing their stars off of these platforms. It's an opportunity to bring new eyes to their product, hype up WWE shows on a different platform, put some money in their performer's pockets while also expanding their audience. But Vince is gonna Vince.
-
- Posts: 50606
- Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:27 pm
- Location: A moron or a fascist...but not both.
Pro Wrasslin' Thread
Very astute point regarding Twitch. Vega is going to be irrelevant soon enough. Also agree with your last paragraph.I think her and Paige are going to have a rude awakening regarding Twitch. Firstly, if they're not WWE employees, does anybody really care to watch them react to YouTube videos? I suppose I shouldn't underestimate the power of thirsty bois but how long will that last?
More importantly, a reddit user pointed out that out of Vega's 15k subs, 14k of them are gifted. Meaning, a vast majority of those gifted subs will expire in 30 days. Paige had 20k subs and she recently dropped down to 5k because her gifted subs expired. I don't think Twitch is the cash cow that they believe it to be.
Now, WWE is incredibly stupid and short-sighted by forcing their stars off of these platforms. It's an opportunity to bring new eyes to their product, hype up WWE shows on a different platform, put some money in their performer's pockets while also expanding their audience. But Vince is gonna Vince.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot], Viva la Ben and 100 guests