Browns at Steelers - Week 18

Postby **Morkle** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:57 am

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.

Postby **nocera** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:04 pm

The decision not to challenge was dumb. They were probably also planning on going for it on 4th and he figured they'd have 3 chances to pound it in from the 1. Still, he took points off the board with that call.

Postby **meow** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:39 pm

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.

This is independent of the situation, but us plebs saying “that’s been the perfect time to do a play action pass”

Like. Don’t you think the defense is also thinking that?

Postby **Morkle** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:42 pm

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.
This is independent of the situation, but us plebs saying “that’s been the perfect time to do a play action pass”

Like. Don’t you think the defense is also thinking that?

Probably yea, but even that Watt run later in the game, it worked. Why run up the gut three times?

Postby **Morkle** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:43 pm

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.
This is independent of the situation, but us plebs saying “that’s been the perfect time to do a play action pass”

Like. Don’t you think the defense is also thinking that?

In regards to play action pass, I'd be interested in the amount of times it was called the 7-2 streak, because I can't really remember it being used too much at all.

Postby **blackjack68** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:46 pm

Not sure if mentioned, but Friermuth diagnosis is a sprain.

No surgery needed. So that’s good.

Postby **tifosi77** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:48 pm

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.
This is independent of the situation, but us plebs saying “that’s been the perfect time to do a play action pass”

Like. Don’t you think the defense is also thinking that?

Postby **meow** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:02 pm

And this is a whole discussion probably. I’m never in the camp of trying to outsmart other coaches/teams. I think you should try to out execute them. The whole “make adjustments!!” thing is sometimes needed, but like 95% other the time, if you execute your plan better than the other team, you’re gonna win

Postby **Morkle** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:04 pm

I just equated it to bad management first, then they rushed into poor playcalling.

Like they got such an embarrassing push on that failed QB sneak because they rushed it. No idea why.

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:10 pm

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.
This is independent of the situation, but us plebs saying “that’s been the perfect time to do a play action pass”

Like. Don’t you think the defense is also thinking that?
In regards to play action pass, I'd be interested in the amount of times it was called the 7-2 streak

they could run it 100 times out of 100 if they win 7 out of every 9 for all I care

Postby **tifosi77** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:16 pm

To forego challenging a pretty f**king clear missed score and then follow that up with a rushed playcall and then a turnover is........... I'm a big Tomlin defender, but that was a thunderous brain fart.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm

coaches bungling in game decisions has always been befuddling to me. A famous one is how poorly Belichick manages the clock in the Super Bowl against the Seahawks. He got bailed out by the Butler interception but it was malpractice before then

like, is coaching truly THAT difficult that even the greats can look floolish times or are they just stubborn old farts who refuse to play Madden to get simulated crunch time game experience?

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:24 pm

think about the question you just asked for a second

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:26 pm

Mike Tomlin has coached 274 games as a HC, was an assistant at various levels for 12, and played through college. I don't think Madden is adding much experience

Postby **Morkle** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:26 pm

Yes, for a failed QB sneak. Like there was zero need to do that entire sequence. Then they wanted to be tough and run it again when that'd been the perfect time to do a fake to throw.
This is independent of the situation, but us plebs saying “that’s been the perfect time to do a play action pass”

Like. Don’t you think the defense is also thinking that?
In regards to play action pass, I'd be interested in the amount of times it was called the 7-2 streak
they could run it 100 times out of 100 if they win 7 out of every 9 for all I care

Sure - I guess I'm looking at it from the perspective of giving Kenny solid reps and to read the game different by being able to confuse the defense. It's purely a if he's our guy, make him the guy type deal.

Postby **robbiestoupe** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:26 pm

You would think there is somebody smart enough to come up with software that will crunch an algorithm to determine whether a timeout is useful or a replay is worth it. Baseball would have solved this years ago. Since single football games are much more crucial than 1/162 baseball games, it is very dumbfounding.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:28 pm

think about the question you just asked for a second

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Postby **meow** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:33 pm

Wasn’t that play in the final two minutes? Can coaches not challenge them? I honestly don’t know

Postby **nocera** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:40 pm

Wasn’t that play in the final two minutes? Can coaches not challenge them? I honestly don’t know

No you're thinking of the Pickens "incompletion" on the sideline.

Postby **meow** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:45 pm

Wasn’t that play in the final two minutes? Can coaches not challenge them? I honestly don’t know
No you're thinking of the Pickens "incompletion" on the sideline.

Oh yeah you’re right

Postby **LeopardLetang** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:40 pm

I would have definitely qb sneaked again. Seriously.

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:47 pm

I would have definitely qb sneaked again. Seriously.

I'm actually cool with no challenge if the next 3 plays are sneaks. 0 chance anyone stops 3 straight QB sneaks

Postby **LeopardLetang** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:50 pm

There was like a 3 year period with Roethlisberger where they wouldn't sneak. It was insane. It's the best play in football

Postby **Troy Loney** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:09 pm

You didn't used to be able to push the quarterback forward

Postby **nocera** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:44 pm

There was like a 3 year period with Roethlisberger where they wouldn't sneak. It was insane. It's the best play in football

Ben could barely walk.