Fifth Avenue Forum

Yeah, I've been working at home with my two year old all week while my wife and daughter quarantine upstairs.

Honestly, I was stressed as hell on Tuesday, but it has been so nice having him here. He is ridiculously well-behaved when I am on calls, and it's nice getting to go into the next room a bunch of times a day to play with him for a little bit.

I drove a 1977 Chevy Impala my senior year in HS. Car was as old as me and bigger than a tank

I had to drive my Dad's 78 Chevette.

The 79 Granada I had in college on the other hand, that was luxury. You could fit three half kegs or four chubby sorority girls across the back.

that's a unit of measurement I didn't know existed but am happy that it does

Wait till he hears about dead hooker trunks.

Daycare just called. Positive case in Lil macs room. Whole room is shut down until January 31. Honestly who is giving them this guidance? It has to be a lawyer and no one else

Our daycare follows guidance from OCDEL… pretty sure most/all do?

JFC that's ridiculous. My son's room has several cases that were last in the building on Thursday and are only shut down until this coming Wednesday.

I can't find any resources in OCDEL site. I'd presume that's who it'd be. But obviously we're going way above and beyond for some reason here.

Our day care follows OCDEL too...

Daughter should be back to school tomorrow, ditto for son in day care. I'm debating taking another day off to just rest.

Daycare just called. Positive case in Lil macs room. Whole room is shut down until January 31. Honestly who is giving them this guidance? It has to be a lawyer and no one else

Sounds like Kindercare lol. Ours shuts down for weeks at a time if there's a positive case.

Do you guys still pay for that? I imagine you might based on a 'paying for the ability to use the facility when available' rather than for guaranteed hours. I have no idea though.

If you are paying that's a pretty good setup for them. It's so hard to switch daycares so there is inertia there that they have on their side. They can cough on a kid, have them test positive, and then have a two-week vacation with no loss of revenue. If the parents call them on it they can invoke 'think of the children' and rinse/repeat. Obviously, this behavior requires a pandemic, but if they're already short-staffed I can see why they'd shut down for half a month on one case, especially if they're not impacted financially.

Ours usually refunds us if we ask for it, if we don't they take it as it comes out automatically.

I've also been more harsh on them now than ever. I used to keep our kid home when they needed help. Now he goes all the time, and I won't keep him home if they're looking for volunteers to stay home.

My 1 yr old hated the snow again

My 1 yr old hated the snow again

My nearly 2 year old also hates the snow

He loved his boots though so I guess that's a win?

Do you guys still pay for that? I imagine you might based on a 'paying for the ability to use the facility when available' rather than for guaranteed hours. I have no idea though.

If you are paying that's a pretty good setup for them. It's so hard to switch daycares so there is inertia there that they have on their side. They can cough on a kid, have them test positive, and then have a two-week vacation with no loss of revenue. If the parents call them on it they can invoke 'think of the children' and rinse/repeat. Obviously, this behavior requires a pandemic, but if they're already short-staffed I can see why they'd shut down for half a month on one case, especially if they're not impacted financially.

If they shut down we don't pay. We aren't paying right now or for these 2 weeks off. If we were I'd be withdrawing almost immediately.

I can deal with a 2-3 day shutdown for deep cleaning every few weeks. Not a 2 week shutdown because one kid tested positive.

I'm pissed they called my wife and not me. It's no sweat off her back for me to watch him as she goes to the office every day. I'm the one who gets all the stress of balancing work and childcare now and while my job isn't as demanding day to day as hers I still can't really afford to be essentially out of pocket for 2 whole weeks. There's only so much playing and movies can do.

I wish they'd have called me. I would've been a bit more hostile. Why are they doing this, what guidance were they given that no one else seems to have been given? How long is this policy going to be in place? If it's indefinitely then I need to begin to look for other childcare provider options. If every time someone gets a positive test I suffer for 2 weeks then there is no point in staying enrolled there.

Cool, thanks guys. My only daycare interaction is the few times I pick up my nephew.

I really feel for those who don't have work from home options. We live in a poor area. A lot of people are making $17 an hour delivering packages or as LPNs at the hospitals. These people depend on the daycare to go to their shift work jobs.

I don't think they're short staffed. If they are they do a great job at hiding it. I've seen maybe 2-3 posts for hiring at the center in the last year or so. Most of the staff has been there for quite some time.

Ours was not charging for quarantining kids, but they went back on that when Delta hit. They said they tried their hardest to get by with not charging, but they were running into some financial problems as they still have to pay to keep the lights on, so to speak.

All i can figure is there is some sort of insurance policy that the owner took out that any covid related shutdowns will be somehow compensated. I don't see how losing 25 kids x $30/day x 10 days doesn't take a massive bite out of her balance sheet

Daycare just called again and said he can return on Jan 24 instead of Jan 31 lol. I swear I have no idea how this place has a kinder stars rating of 5 because it's run by an absolute buffoon

We do not get charged for room closure due to covid, but we do get charged for snow days, understandably.

We stood to receive a 2-day credit this week for my older son's room being closed mon-tue. I wonder if they'll change it to 1 since the center was closed today.

My guess is that they interpreted the guidelines on their own, likely misinterpreted them, and then were contacted by a parent saying "hey... I'm not so sure that length is correct. Can you double check?" They did and now adjusted based on new information.

But then again, I tend to assume the best in people...

Let me be mad!

We do not get charged for room closure due to covid, but we do get charged for snow days, understandably.

We stood to receive a 2-day credit this week for my older son's room being closed mon-tue. I wonder if they'll change it to 1 since the center was closed today.

Ours is the opposite. We received a partial charge when 4 workers went down with covid. Yesterday they closed and gave us a full reimbursement.

Usually they are pretty set on no reimbursements. I get it, you're trying to keep workers that are severely underpaid, and taking care of my child while I work. That's why I usually just shut up about it. Yeah, we pay a buttload for only 2 days a week, but in the end, these 20-somethings are not getting a living wage. And it's not like the center is some monopolizing monstrosity.