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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:11 pm

Astros fired Hinch and Luhnow. Cora may be next for the Red Sox.

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Postby MWB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:18 pm

It’ll be interesting to see the punishment for Cora.

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Postby LITT » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:19 pm

If they get to keep their rings and the organization doesn't vacate the WS or something like that, none of the perpetrators will give an eff
I am with ktk. The punishments show that they were found guilty of cheating in a WS year. Ban Hinch and assistants from baseball, strip the title or this is all meaningless in the end
this.

these 'punishments' are so minute in the scheme of things. look at the patriots, they are still cheating after spygate. anything to win.

all of these owners are billionaires. a 5 million dollar fine and some frustration related to staffing is worth the incremental revenue and legacy a world championship brings.

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Postby MWB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:31 pm

Do Hinch or Luhnow get jobs again? If you’re hiring them, you have to hire them and then wait a year for them to actually work.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:42 pm

$5 million is about one season of sean rodriguez

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:46 pm

Might put $100 on the yankees winning the 2020 WS

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:54 pm


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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:07 pm

I mean, if Alex Presley got a hit there was definitely cheating involved.

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Postby CBear3 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:22 pm

The report is pretty dubious.
It only happened one season, and the guy in charge of it isn't here any more. Cross my heart...

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Postby MWB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:49 pm

So is Cora going to get the biggest punishment? I think he could get banned.

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Postby MWB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:40 pm

Do Hinch or Luhnow get jobs again? If you’re hiring them, you have to hire them and then wait a year for them to actually work.
Actually, they get reinstated following the 2020 season, so they’ll get hired again.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:04 pm

Alex Cora shitcanned by the Sox.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:06 pm

I can’t believe people give a **** about sign stealing. Part of the game I say. Get better signs or rotating sets.

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Postby LeopardLetang » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:07 pm

I can’t believe people give a **** about sign stealing. Part of the game I say. Get better signs or rotating sets.
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Postby CBear3 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:11 pm

Sign stealing has been going on forever, but it was always a guy that was already on base reading the signs and tipping them. So if a runner hits second as a pitcher you’d know to mix up signs/indicators. There’s no way to tip signs without a guy on base without using technology in dugout, which was expressly prohibited in the Apple Watch saga in 2017. So everybody knew what they were doing was illegal and providing an unfair advantage.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:13 pm

Sign stealing has been going on forever, but it was always a guy that was already on base reading the signs and tipping them. So if a runner hits second as a pitcher you’d know to mix up signs/indicators. There’s no way to tip signs without a guy on base without using technology in dugout, which was expressly prohibited in the Apple Watch saga in 2017. So everybody knew what they were doing was illegal and providing an unfair advantage.
Sounds like sour grapes. It isn’t 1913 anymore, evolve the game including signs.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:17 pm

I can’t believe people give a **** about sign stealing. Part of the game I say. Get better signs or rotating sets.
it's one thing to steal signs when you're on 2nd base - part of the game. You have to worry about A) getting picked off while you do it B) figuring out the actual signs because when you're on 2nd they aren't just flashing a 2 for a curveball, and C) figuring out a way to let the batter know what's coming without them catching on because lastly D) you have to be okay knowing you may get one in the earhole.

The current situation has some jabrony looking at an HD TV with a camera pointed at the catcher from center field and banging on a trash can the instant he flashes a sign. So respectfully, gtfoh with that bush league BS

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Postby Pavel Bure » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:52 pm

I can’t believe people give a **** about sign stealing. Part of the game I say. Get better signs or rotating sets.
it's one thing to steal signs when you're on 2nd base - part of the game. You have to worry about A) getting picked off while you do it B) figuring out the actual signs because when you're on 2nd they aren't just flashing a 2 for a curveball, and C) figuring out a way to let the batter know what's coming without them catching on because lastly D) you have to be okay knowing you may get one in the earhole.

The current situation has some jabrony looking at an HD TV with a camera pointed at the catcher from center field and banging on a trash can the instant he flashes a sign. So respectfully, gtfoh with that bush league BS
Boohoo a team found a way to crack the other team’s stupid code. Get better signs.

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Postby CBear3 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:02 pm

I've actually got no problem if the league is going to say that's the view moving forward, it wouldn't effect the game much. Pitchers and catchers would just use the same system they've been using since runners hit 2nd base since the dawn of time. But the league specifically cracked down on technology in the dugout which I believe is the reason they only addressed sign stealing in 2017 and not earlier.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:13 pm

Yes. I think he's trolling?

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Postby Pavel Bure » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:43 pm

I will say at least they’re cracking down. Unlike the NFL.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:47 pm

If there's nothing wrong with it then what's the need to crack down on anything?

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Postby MWB » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:52 pm

I can’t believe people give a **** about sign stealing. Part of the game I say. Get better signs or rotating sets.
it's one thing to steal signs when you're on 2nd base - part of the game. You have to worry about A) getting picked off while you do it B) figuring out the actual signs because when you're on 2nd they aren't just flashing a 2 for a curveball, and C) figuring out a way to let the batter know what's coming without them catching on because lastly D) you have to be okay knowing you may get one in the earhole.

The current situation has some jabrony looking at an HD TV with a camera pointed at the catcher from center field and banging on a trash can the instant he flashes a sign. So respectfully, gtfoh with that bush league BS
Boohoo a team found a way to crack the other team’s stupid code. Get better signs.
Which just slows the game down more. No thanks.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:38 am


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Postby Pavel Bure » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:46 am

If there's nothing wrong with it then what's the need to crack down on anything?
Outside of the rules in place I think it’s a non-story. However when looking at what the Patriots have and continue to do in the NFL i can see the reasoning behind thinking sign stealing is beyond the pale.

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