MLB

[King Colby]

Another **** deal cheapo should have done

[Dickie Dunn]

https://x.com/JonHeyman/status/1737211563117810067?s=20

[Troy Loney]

Must be nice to take on that kind of risk.

He’s also the good kind of risk for the dodgers, cause he always seems to miss most of the regular season but show up in the playoffs. The opposite of every other pitcher they have.

[Troy Loney]

Til that Sammy Sosa is white now

[Ad@m]

[Dickie Dunn]

12 years, 325 million

[Dickie Dunn]

This sport is broken

[LeopardLetang]

Pirates offer was $12 million over 320 years

[Dickie Dunn]

Per my buddy in the know, prepare yinzselves for a salary cap related extended lockout in 2026. Teams have had enough of the nonsense.

[willeyeam]

good

[Troy Loney]

Per my buddy in the know, prepare yinzselves for a salary cap related extended lockout in 2026. Teams have had enough of the nonsense.

Wondering if the death of the cable tv deal money is creating the increased separation between the haves and the middle. Teams like the pirates are happy just letting the rich teams do whatever. But like cardinals and Red Sox are pissed off at what the dodgers and Mets are doings

[Dickie Dunn]

That's a big part of it. Vast majority of the league is also tired of giving welfare money to teams like the Pirates that don't even pretend to try. Cap, floor, revenue sharing changes, changes to free agency timeline for players, and international draft are the focuses for 2026 and "Manfred will go to war for a salary cap" is what I was told. League payments to the teams was approved to be frozen at 2022 levels through 2026 to create a war chest to keep teams afloat during a prolonged lockout. It's already over a billion dollars so they'll be well prepared.

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

I’m really curious to see how differently tv money looks in 2 years. Cord cutting ain’t slowing down.

[King Colby]

This is good info and this league now needs a year off to fix itself.

Little teams in the pirates category have no incentive to spend.

Mid teams are slowly getting further and further separated from the behemoths. You'll see the odd team step up short term (Toronto, San Diego, Texas) but its unsustainable even for them.

You simply can't have a league where 10 teams can't field a competitive roster, and another 15 or so are fighting over the increasingly costly free agent scraps just to try to keep up with the 5 or 6 behemoths.

[robbiestoupe]

MLB can take as many years off as they need to get this in place. Not like the Pirates will be missing out on some “window” of opportunity.

[MWB]

So many changes that need to be made, but aside from the cap/floor, the international draft is the biggest. It makes no sense that international players aren’t just part of the regular draft.

[faftorial]

I would think there would be strong opposition to a hard cap/floor from the "rich" and "poor" teams. Also the players union.

[Dickie Dunn]

Let's call it the Todd Boehly effect at this point. His actions with Chelsea caused the EPL to adopt mid-season changes to the amortization structure of player contracts. Most expensive contract in MLB history and it's nearly all deferred. Most expensive pitcher in MLB history and he's never played a game in the league.

To TL's previous point, you have upper echelon teams with prominent owners (Cardinals, Cubs, Giants, Red Sox) that feel like they can no longer compete financially with the other "haves". Couple that with prominent owners of mid to small market teams that have spent years fighting a losing battle (Guardians, White Sox, Tigers, Mariners, Orioles), KC's point of teams who make the occasional but unsustainable financial step up, now you FINALLY have the top tier of the haves pissed off that even now they suddenly can't compete with the actions of one team (ehhh just the Yankees I guess), you have 26 teams all spending in the neighborhood of $100MM minimum who are beyond tired of teams like the Pirates, Rays, and A's crying poor, and finally you have more than half the league tired of paying out revenue sharing to teams that keep it. The appetite for change is sky high and hopefully a cap and floor finally gets put in place as the current path of spending is completely unsustainable for the league. For us masochistic Pirates fans, the good news is that starting point for discussions on a floor would be at least $100MM, which I could easily see enticing Nutting to sell.

[Orlando Penguin]

A significant factor in the popularity of the NFL is the parity and most fans believing their team at least has a chance to get to and/or win the Owl. Baseball is at a tipping point of popularity where the new rules helped but unless you’re a fan of the the 5-6 teams who spend the most, what are you hoping for other than maybe a division title and the privilege of getting bashed in a playoff matchup.

I am not one of those. I will always believe in ‘just get into the tournament and anything is possible’.

[Ad@m]

[Ad@m]

On wednesday, Wander Franco will be taken in front of a judge to be arraigned, according to lawyer @FelixPortes the prosecutors are expected to ask for wander to remain in Jail with no bail as the process continues.

[Troy Loney]

As Pirate fans, we know how bad it can get when your best player turns out to be an ephebophile

[Dickie Dunn]

Boehly owned Chelsea for all of one transfer window before the Premier League changed the contract amortization rules due to his nonsense. Have to imagine his sudden obsession with deferred contracts is going to cause something to change in MLB.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

yeah, it feels like it’s taking advantage of a loophole

[CBear3]

There's no salary cap, the MLB doesn't really care about maintaining a level playing field, there's just as good a chance they do nothing.