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Postby faftorial » Mon May 11, 2020 4:55 pm

No DH this year.
I'm hearing DH this year. Booo. Advantage to AL teams.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon May 11, 2020 8:37 pm

A DH is not baseball.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon May 11, 2020 8:51 pm

My man

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Postby dodint » Mon May 11, 2020 9:52 pm

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Postby MWB » Mon May 11, 2020 9:53 pm

I mean, 45 years of play says it is baseball.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon May 11, 2020 10:08 pm

DH’s for everyone.

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Postby faftorial » Mon May 11, 2020 10:12 pm

Junior circuit indeed.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue May 12, 2020 7:26 am

DH’s for everyone.
Man, I get that most of the time a pitcher AB is meh, but I love the occasional pitcher base hit for the sheer novelty of it.

If the NL had a DH, we would have never gotten this all time moment:


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Postby Gaucho » Tue May 12, 2020 7:29 am

The DH is lame.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue May 12, 2020 7:55 am

Might as well have goalies line up at center ice for the faceoff, have placekickers at QB for the 2 pt conversion, and centers playing point guard. Pitchers batting will give you the occasional gem, but 90% of the time it's an out. And an ugly out at that.

You put the best players in position to show their skills. A pitcher's skill is not hitting the baseball.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue May 12, 2020 11:05 am

"Like that is even the same thing Napoleon."

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue May 12, 2020 11:13 am

Never said it was the same. Difference between similar and same

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Postby Beveridge » Tue May 12, 2020 11:21 am

I got my money on no season because they can't come to agreement on money.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Tue May 12, 2020 11:22 am

Nice logic players

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Postby faftorial » Tue May 12, 2020 11:25 am

I got my money on no season because they can't come to agreement on money.
Yeah, the players aren't going to agree to huge pay cuts.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue May 12, 2020 11:32 am

So I understand having a contract. But if you play half the amount of games I feel like there should be some pay cut as well right?

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue May 12, 2020 11:37 am

Does anyone understand the dynamics on the owner's side? So is this the large market teams demanding full revenue sharing?

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Postby faftorial » Tue May 12, 2020 11:41 am

So I understand having a contract. But if you play half the amount of games I feel like there should be some pay cut as well right?
I think they want a pay cut because fans won't be in attendance.

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Postby mikey » Tue May 12, 2020 11:44 am

Non-baseball guy here, but also bored...has there been no investment (re-investment?) in pitcher hitting development? Like, no one (relatively speaking) has determined that to be a useful skill, particularly for a starting pitcher? Wouldn't a starter see like 7-12 ABs per month or so? That's not worth trying to get on base twice in that span or so...? I know that puckhandling is out as a skill in hockey for the most part (trapezoid, different post integrations, the odd desire to direct pucks out of play for unnecessary in-zone draws, etc.) but still a healthy amount of players come along and still do it well: Smith, Bishop, Jarry, etc. seems like a higher percentage than pitchers that can hit...

Is the sport (like most sports) become too specialized for this skill to be brought back...? I may be wrong, but I thought I remember Tom Glavine being able to hit and that was just in the 90s...(which I guess was a while ago now)...was the DH brought in because pitchers couldn't hit? Or was the DH brought in so pitchers wouldn't hit...?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue May 12, 2020 11:45 am

The DH was brought in as a gimmick in the 70's.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue May 12, 2020 12:01 pm

So I understand having a contract. But if you play half the amount of games I feel like there should be some pay cut as well right?
I think they want a pay cut because fans won't be in attendance.
Well yeah, less fans, less TV money, less money to pay players.. But I think the simplest way to put it because all of those could possibly be "not my problem" - is you're giving us half the labor as usual, you get less money.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue May 12, 2020 12:13 pm

Yeah, but they are billionaires so they can afford to lose millions and millions of dollars paying players, staff, workers full salaries with no income coming in via paid attendance.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue May 12, 2020 12:18 pm

?

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Postby MWB » Tue May 12, 2020 12:24 pm

Non-baseball guy here, but also bored...has there been no investment (re-investment?) in pitcher hitting development? Like, no one (relatively speaking) has determined that to be a useful skill, particularly for a starting pitcher? Wouldn't a starter see like 7-12 ABs per month or so? That's not worth trying to get on base twice in that span or so...? I know that puckhandling is out as a skill in hockey for the most part (trapezoid, different post integrations, the odd desire to direct pucks out of play for unnecessary in-zone draws, etc.) but still a healthy amount of players come along and still do it well: Smith, Bishop, Jarry, etc. seems like a higher percentage than pitchers that can hit...

Is the sport (like most sports) become too specialized for this skill to be brought back...? I may be wrong, but I thought I remember Tom Glavine being able to hit and that was just in the 90s...(which I guess was a while ago now)...was the DH brought in because pitchers couldn't hit? Or was the DH brought in so pitchers wouldn't hit...?
Hitting is incredibly difficult. As is pitching. To dedicate the amount of time to become a decent hitter would take away your time from pitching, so for most players, it’s not worth it for the 80-100 at-bats a year. There’s also the aspect of injury a pitcher could face when batting/running bases.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue May 12, 2020 12:29 pm

?
That was sarcasm.

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